Gringo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. 48 hours, jono, StockholmRam and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Nah, it's not the EFL we should blame. It's the fans. Red_Dawn, The_Sheriff, Rammy03 and 10 others 2 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. Notts Forest always field a weak team 48 hours, Jram and Reggie Greenwood 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkRam Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It won’t be a weakened team in the sense that all our best players are not playing. It will be the strongest team that we can put out, our best players on the pitch. it will be a weak team, not a weakened team. StarterForTen, Ken Tram, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 17 others 6 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Igor Whats the Score? Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. But "full strength" surely refers to playing the best players we have available... here at the club... registered to us... or at the very least, loaned to us. The better players you refer to are currently registered to other teams, so we can't possibly play them. Effectively, they don't exist, and cannot therefore be chosen to play for us. If you write to The EFL on this, they will point and laugh at you. David Graham Brown, jono, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I assume it relates to who you have signed on and who is on the bench and who is in the field of play. It’s obvious some teams are weaker than others in the championship that’s why it’s so geared up for the teams coming down from the Premier League to ensure they ge back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I am not sure this reg is in point but I do think if they dont sort before start of season the integrity of the league is in doubt. Say Huddersfield play us on first day and win 8-0 as no CBs. We play Boro couple of weeks later (its just an example havent looked at fixtures) with CBs and draw 1-1. Huddersfield get automatic promotion finishing 2nd, one point ahead of Boro who lose in playoffs again. What will Gibson be saying/doing/threatening then, especially if he is one of hostiles Nixon refers to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Nahhhh we got ourselves into this mess, Mel needs to sort the embargo issues. We haven’t paid the tax man, I have no sympathy for us. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Taribo said: Nahhhh we got ourselves into this mess, Mel needs to sort the embargo issues. We haven’t paid the tax man, I have no sympathy for us. so far as the tax man goes, I think what may have happened is: we are in dispute with HMRC about what is payable HRMC understands how embargoes work and so has raised a demand (which we have of course not paid) as a negotiating ploy. Fair dinkum and glad they are doing their job effectively Edited July 30, 2021 by kevinhectoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, CBRammette said: I am not sure this reg is in point but I do think if they dont sort before start of season the integrity of the league is in doubt. Say Huddersfield play us on first day and win 8-0 as no CBs. We play Boro couple of weeks later (its just an example havent looked at fixtures) with CBs and draw 1-1. Huddersfield get automatic promotion finishing 2nd, one point ahead of Boro who lose in playoffs again. What will Gibson be saying/doing/threatening then, especially if he is one of hostiles Nixon refers to? Now that would be amazing. I think Gibson would explode ? CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Unfortunately as others have pointed out,your interpretation is out....we will be fielding our strongest team,as that is all we have...unsigned players in any form including potential loans are not our players and not part of our strength. It really does look as though we are likely to not start out first match with any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad1919 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: so far as the tax man goes, I think what may have happened is: we are in dispute with HMRC about what is payable HRMC understands how embargoes work and so has raised a demand (which we have of course not paid) as a negotiating ploy. Fair dinkum and glad they are doing their job effectively When you put it like that, if we don’t pay the taxman there’s little point whining about everything else. On a positive note the team that ended the game on Wednesday looked fit, hungry and seemed to have a real togetherness. COYR kevinhectoring and Premier ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. I am surprised you wrote this. Your posts are usually factual and logical. This one isn’t regardless of the EFL’s actions .. we will be fielding our strongest team from the resources we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 53 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: so far as the tax man goes, I think what may have happened is: we are in dispute with HMRC about what is payable HRMC understands how embargoes work and so has raised a demand (which we have of course not paid) as a negotiating ploy. Fair dinkum and glad they are doing their job effectively In dispute about what? I'm pretty sure I read that the amount relates to PAYE, which I think ties in with what was being said about how much MM was putting in to fund the payroll. Not seen anything mentioned regarding a dispute with HMRC. The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Actually there may be some merit in this.. if he doesn’t pick Sibbo then he is guilty of fielding a weakened team. Not sure that down to the EFL though, just Wazzer “owngoaling” again. Deej and Ramarena 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, minesahartington said: Actually there may be some merit in this.. if he doesn’t pick Sibbo then he is guilty of fielding a weakened team. Not sure that down to the EFL though, just Wazzer “owngoaling” again. Oh for goodness sake talk about anyway possible to have a go at Rooney. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Effing Fools Limited won’t listen as they are charlatans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: Oh for goodness sake talk about anyway possible to have a go at Rooney. Not at all. Lighten up. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Just now, minesahartington said: Not at all. Lighten up. We can’t lighten up we have to back the club in these difficult times . The best way to fight is to stick together against the enemy. Foreveram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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