Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The best approach would be to write a letter telling the Effing Fools Limited that they might be depriving footballers of their livelihood by stopping them getting a contract for their futures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: We can’t lighten up we have to back the club in these difficult times . The best way to fight is to stick together against the enemy. Agreed. It was a lighthearted suggestion that not picking my favourite player weakens the team. Long shot to get EFL to fine us for it though. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, minesahartington said: Agreed. It was a lighthearted suggestion that not picking my favourite player weakens the team. Long shot to get EFL to fine us for it though. He’s one of my favorite players when he pulls on that Derby shirt as are all the others. PS These are difficult times for the club but I still think the future will be bright with all these good young players. Take Max Bird Rooney loves him and so do I Edited July 30, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) The adherance to this rule is the responsibility of the "Club", the club has to field the strongest side from players "the Club" has practical control over. Edited July 30, 2021 by Elwood P Dowd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said: The adherance to this rule is the responsibility of the "Club", the club has to field the strongest side from players "the Club" has practical control over. Of course but we are being hindered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 27 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: In dispute about what? I'm pretty sure I read that the amount relates to PAYE, which I think ties in with what was being said about how much MM was putting in to fund the payroll. Not seen anything mentioned regarding a dispute with HMRC. Dunno but i don’t think it’s standard PAYE arrears or other clubs would be similarly affected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 minute ago, kevinhectoring said: Dunno but i don’t think it’s standard PAYE arrears or other clubs would be similarly affected No they are not being victimised like Derby County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: Of course but we are being hindered That is true, but evey club could argue " we could have won the game if we have been able to field the players in the Man City side.? All Derby can do is follow the regulation and field the best team from the players they have under their control Edited July 30, 2021 by Elwood P Dowd Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I don’t think that rule has been adhered to since dirty Leeds fielded a weakened side against us in the 1970s, but the Efl will probably bring it back just for us. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 It doesn't have any bearing on the current issue IMO, but it absolutely would have had bearing on the Chorley/professional-standing issue. If I was Rooney and they hadn't gone back on that, I'd have been slightly tempted to start as close as possible to the Chorley XI in the first game and just dare them to charge us for fielding a weakened team. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Birch Edited July 30, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Dunno but i don’t think it’s standard PAYE arrears or other clubs would be similarly affected Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. The next logical progression from this logic is that because we don't have enough money or the ability to attract them - We're not fielding a full strength side by not using Ronaldo and Messi up front... I think the EFL have been a big old bag of Bamfords to us for the last couple of years - But this is a daft argument Am I allowed into the US yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS1992 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 7 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Curtains said: No they are not being victimised like Derby County. I know we like to think like this and there's an element of it with the efl in my opinion. However we are in this position because of our own actions over a long time. Edited July 30, 2021 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong i-Ram, atherstoneram and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: Take Max Bird Rooney loves him and so do I Threesome ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) Would rather have x3 signings. Edited July 30, 2021 by hintonsboots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 8 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: EFL regulation 24 covers the fielding of a weakened team in a championship league game see below, Regulation 24 The Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. My preposition is that if the EFL forces DCFC by means of this Embargo, to knowingly have the Rams field a weakened side at the start of the season, then they will be guilty of breaking their own regulations, and to my mind if we some months later we were able to strengthen the team, and go on a good set of results, we could seriously affect both relegation and promotion in the league. My view is that given we only currently have without any additional players a team that will find it very difficult to get results, then the EFL is playing with fire, and for once maybe it could be Mr Gibsons team that could be adversely affected. I am going to write to the EFL to point out they will transgress their own regulations if they do not see sense. it wouldnt be a weakened team as we can only pick from players we have not the ones we dont have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: I know we like to think like this and there's an element of it with the efl in my opinion. However we are in this position because of our own actions over a long time. We will just have to agree to disagree on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: it wouldnt be a weakened team as we can only pick from players we have not the ones we dont have. But everyone knows we would sign reinforcements if the same EFL allowed, so whoever gets to play us after we sign will get a tougher game than if we played our current squad. There would definitely be squealing from some clubs - think Wycombe style. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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