Poynton ram Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Palace bound apparently with a fee suggested of up to £10m, presumably a sell on fee due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Hang on, this is a different thread ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 In before the blonde wizard is moved to transfer Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Poynton ram said: Palace bound apparently with a fee suggested of up to £10m, presumably a sell on fee due? £10m? And yet 17 yr olds from Florist academy get bought for £18m when they’ve achieved Jack Schist apart from a handful of appearances ? Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 In b4 the move to the former players thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 4 hours ago, ilkleyram said: There's something about Will Hughes that most of us on here don't see as a problem that professional football people in the EPL do see. It doesn't appear to be any off the field stuff or training or broader football intelligence (though Watford aren't allowing him to train with the first team at the moment because of the contract situation), so you can only conclude that he either doesn't completely fit in with the systems that clubs play and isn't good enough to build a whole team philosophy around or that he's missing something technical - an extra yard of pace for example or general physicality that can't be taught or trained. In recent times he's one of the Derby players that I have most enjoyed watching and for him to have a transfer value of around £5m to £10m, to be looking at clubs in the lower reaches of the PL and to have (apparently) few takers still seems puzzling. Maybe mid/top Championship/lower PL is just his level. Still very, very good in the greater scheme of life but not the England player we were all anticipating. Sky sports reported last week that Hughes was offered better terms when Watford were promoted, Hughes alledgedly said(or agent) he was worth more, Watford called the bluff and sent him away to train elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: Sadly, my predictions years ago, have proven to be true. Hughes simply just doesn’t do anything. He looks neat and tidy, but in this stats based industry, he contributes nothing. He’s made no headlines for goals, assists, protecting his defenders, covering ground, shots, pass accuracy or completion etc etc etc… what does he actually contribute? Saw some stats that last season with Will playing Watford had a 71% win percentage and 49% when he wasn’t Edited August 22, 2021 by Reggie Greenwood Found the correct figures RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) https://theathletic.com/news/crystal-palace-close-to-finalising-deal-for-watfords-will-hughes/sTd48RvkV2MQ "in the region of £6m" "could rise closer to £10 million with potential add-ons" We'll be due 900k if the 15% sell-on clause is true. Edited August 26, 2021 by Jubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Jubbs said: https://theathletic.com/news/crystal-palace-close-to-finalising-deal-for-watfords-will-hughes/sTd48RvkV2MQ "in the region of £6m" "could rise closer to £10 million with potential add-ons" We'll be due 900k if the 15% sell-on clause is true. If we get anything it will be a bonus Sad for the lad having to go Watford and then Crystal Palace for a higher standard of football - my experience of both places - Yuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 On 22/08/2021 at 15:19, ilkleyram said: There's something about Will Hughes that most of us on here don't see as a problem that professional football people in the EPL do see. It doesn't appear to be any off the field stuff or training or broader football intelligence (though Watford aren't allowing him to train with the first team at the moment because of the contract situation), so you can only conclude that he either doesn't completely fit in with the systems that clubs play and isn't good enough to build a whole team philosophy around or that he's missing something technical - an extra yard of pace for example or general physicality that can't be taught or trained. In recent times he's one of the Derby players that I have most enjoyed watching and for him to have a transfer value of around £5m to £10m, to be looking at clubs in the lower reaches of the PL and to have (apparently) few takers still seems puzzling. Maybe mid/top Championship/lower PL is just his level. Still very, very good in the greater scheme of life but not the England player we were all anticipating. To my mind it's two things. Will doesn't decisively effect the game enough. He's an amazing team player but does not score nearly enough goals or get enough assists. Then, I never felt he was quite the same after his injury. I loved watching Will play as he was such an intelligent, skillful player who always knew what he was going to do with the ball before it reached him. But not affecting the game is why I think Giles Barnes in his wonder season looked a better academy product and would have had the world at his feet had he stayed fit. And Louie Sibley's attacking abilities and ball-striking make him potentially better than Will too. Let's hope it's Louie's breakthrough season where he scores 15-20 goals from midfield. Ellafella, Bianoic and angieram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Jubbs said: https://theathletic.com/news/crystal-palace-close-to-finalising-deal-for-watfords-will-hughes/sTd48RvkV2MQ "in the region of £6m" "could rise closer to £10 million with potential add-ons" We'll be due 900k if the 15% sell-on clause is true. Do I dare say these numbers maybe show the amount Watford paid us for him was what he was worth? You see Forest sell the likes of Burke for whatever daft figure it was and flop completely. We didn't get that inflated UK based young player with potential fee, but at the time being one of our own, did we overvalue him? Ultimately a player is worth what a club is willing to pay, just a shame coming off his injury and not in the managers plans ruined any possibility of that inflated fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Jubbs said: https://theathletic.com/news/crystal-palace-close-to-finalising-deal-for-watfords-will-hughes/sTd48RvkV2MQ "in the region of £6m" "could rise closer to £10 million with potential add-ons" We'll be due 900k if the 15% sell-on clause is true. Isn't a sell-on clause normally on any profit though, rather than on the fee received? If so we'll get diddly-squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carnero said: Isn't a sell-on clause normally on any profit though, rather than on the fee received? If so we'll get diddly-squat. Well according to people on here Rowett sold him for duck all so £900000 sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, Gritstone Ram said: Well according to people on here Rowett sold him for duck all so £900000 sounds about right. John Percy & Owen Bradley both said £6m rising to £9m at the time, but some people selectively decided to ignore them and go with The Watford Observer's own valuation instead, as it allowed them to bash the club as normal. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, David said: Do I dare say these numbers maybe show the amount Watford paid us for him was what he was worth? You see Forest sell the likes of Burke for whatever daft figure it was and flop completely. He's in the last year of his contract, post-covid. Not a bad price then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Edited August 27, 2021 by RoyMac5 GenBr, bimmerman, angieram and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Signed. Three year deal. Palace. Zag zig and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Signed for Palarse, not sure of the fee or how much we will get… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 6 million allegedly, so we’d probably get very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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