Ramslad1992

2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Could it now be any clearer? In the space of 48 hours the EFL have stated BOTH that the club has the offer of EITHER 'impartial' arbitration OR the High Courts as a means to satisfy claims AND that they now acknowledges MFC/WWFC as football creditors, which would leave arbitration as the sole route forward. Wholly contradictory statements and yet another example of their contemptuous abuse of power. There has been no discussion, no arbitration and no independent input to this decision, rather it is a call made arbitrarily and unilaterally by the EFL board with no outside consultation and in contravention of their own directives. Do these clowns even read what they regurgitate into the public domain? Do they not even cross-reference the claims made in one with the other? The inconsistencies (read: huge ducking porkies) are glaring and have been for two years now. Likewise Gibson who appears to have the attention span of a hungry toddler and the linguistic skills of one too.

Heads must now roll at the EFL. There is NO ROOM FOR DOUBT anymore. In their poorly conceived and executed PR campaign seeking to shift the onus to Morris, the admins and even the 'highest bidder', they have absolutely tied themselves in knots and in doing so, have threatened both the stability and integrity of the League they are meant to govern and serve. 

At this point, the 72 member clubs simply must act. There can be no remaining doubt that the EFL prioritises its own interests over those of its member clubs. Ladies and gentlemen, the tail is clearly wagging the dog. This is, of course, a wholly unacceptable state of affairs and will inevitably lead to chaos should the precedent they seek to set be entertained. Every subsequent season will start with multiple different fixture lists as the governing body and civil courts wade through dozens of spurious football related claims, clubs will be forced into admin and /or liquidation and the league system as we know it, will fail. A vote of no confidence and the immediate resignations of Rick Parry and Trevor Birch are now mandatory requirements on the long road back to credible and impartial governance of the League. For any governing body, as custodians of football, to bring bring the English game into such hopeless disrepute is simply unforgiveable and action must be taken sooner rather than later, irrespective of the situation at Derby County.

As for Messrs Gibson and Couhig, your bluff has now been called. If you truly believe in the veracity of your claims and are not simply looking to leverage the threat of liquidation to extort funds from a club who has already accepted its punishment (in keeping with the EFL's own directives), it's time for you to accept Mr Morris's offer of your day in court. Any other course of action will merely confirm suspicions of the very unsavoury motivations that have led to what appears to have been a merit-less witch-hunt borne solely out of greed and petty personal grievances. I'm looking at you specifically Gibson. You chose to prioritise continuing your spat with Mel Morris over the future of the club, the welfare of it's employees, the sustainability of local businesses and the mental health of the wider community. This will NEVER be forgotten, nor forgiven. I speak only for myself when I say that having been a chairman whom I once held in high regard, I have now come to despise everything for which you stand. 

I trust also that those on this forum who openly mocked posters who for two years have openly expressed the view that the EFL's treatment of Derby County Football Club has been less than impartial, will now take time to think about whether said posts were fair, warranted or helpful. Hindsight, it is true, is a wonderful thing, but so too is an open mind.

A last thought in regards to Mel Morris; Mel, I was one of your staunchest supporters. I was wrong. It broke my heart when you placed the club into administration. Perhaps there are mitigating circumstances as yet unknown, but we are where we are and you sir, were the custodian of this club we all love. Inevitably, the buck stops with you. All of this notwithstanding, thank you for the steps you have now taken to break the impasse. What's done can't be changed, but I do hope that this will at least give harsher critics some small pause for thought. 

1 minute ago, Rev said:

I thought the same as you earlier, when I read Mel's statement, first glimmer of hope in a while.

However, the more I think about it, the less likely it seems a solution.

MFC and WW will decline the offer, saying there is already a mechanism in place to hear their grievances at a lower cost to them, i.e. arbitration.

Even if they were to take up the offer, surely the actual real creditors such as HMRC and the other businesses effected would question why the man who put us into administration can cover court costs, and a possible liability of £50m odd quid, to deal with claims currently without value, when they're offered 25p in the pound?

Legal minefield, surely?

 

 

The EFL have thrown the whole league into a legal minefield with their incompetence. 

6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

Derby fans need to protest in Derby. That way all the press is positive. Our supporters groups should be focusing on this 

Don’t agree. We’ve protested in Derby, every fan going to boro away needs to be there 3 hours before the game singing Derby songs and anti gibson/EFL songs.

imagine how their players will feel walking in to 3000 fans singing ‘Gibson and Parry sitting in a tree…’

On 01/02/2022 at 21:01, Ambitious said:

 

Aaron Donald - Super Bowl MVP - Book IT! 

I agree.

that video doesn’t have anything on ‘if you don’t ducking bounce you’re a red’ though.

10 minute walk from Preston train station to EFL headquarters. 
 

how many fans do you think we can gather to sing

’we’re coming for you 

we’re coming for you

EFL we’re coming for you’?

absolute focus needs to be on them, gibson and that wannabe at Wycombe. Maybe a three way protest. 1/3 at Preston, 1/3 at boro and 1/3 at Wycombe. 
 

these fuxkers can’t get away with this. 

9 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

There’s not gonna be a 22/23 season. Not for Derby County anyway.

11 minutes ago, David said:

Wow. Speechless. 

Over to you EFL, Boro and Wycombe. Let us go and challenge this in the high court personally against Mel. 

If you don’t accept, why not?

Backed them both into a corner now. If they refuse it’s blatantly clear they want to see this club go under. They’ve been offered a chance to get their money, why would they care where from? 

1 hour ago, Gaspode said:

I thought she replied to everyone - guess it's just me then ?

I’m clearly that out of her league she was she’ll shocked at the request ?‍♂️

1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said:

The responsible commercial solution is for you to withdraw your claim.

I can contact Margot Robbie asking her out on a date ‘in good faith’ doesn’t mean I should expect a reply…

23 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

Would a hitman be cheaper(joking obviously).

Make it count Sibley! 

The EFL at best are now incompetent, insufficient and just not good enough.

if this goes through and we can’t sign Jagielka it’s a disgrace.

one saving grace if this club goes bust is the phoenix club will have nothing to do with these ducking idiots for a few years.

duck THE EFL! 

6 minutes ago, Rampant said:

Binned off by Arsenal and given a chance with us. Gets first team action and three goals into his career he's off. Thanks for the loyalty fella 

Not even gone yet… Christ. 

5 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

They need the money but I won't here its good money, not when a player in League 1 can get 20 goals in a season and be sold for 4-5 million.  Pants down time.

We’ve had our pants down for years anyway. We misheard the whole ‘buy low sell high’ and buy high sell low. Hence we are in this mess, sickening to see our young players go for the square root of bugger all but we’ve always done it.

43 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Compromise solution:

Boro drop their claim against DCFC, however, to remove any lingering bad blood, outstanding matters are resolved with a.....

bare knuckle boxing match between Mel Morris and Steve Gibson.

Venue: Pride Park

Rules:

Figth club standard

Tickets:

£25 (£15 con) - All proceeds go to save DCFC funds.

Prize:

The satisfaction of the beaten man in front of you

Referee:

Stephen Pearce

 

Could even cut Mel out totally and auction off who gets to beat up pubebead! 

Justq how loudly could 30000 Derby fans sing 

‘the EFL are Bamfords 

we don’t give a duck

we’re Derby County 

and we’re staying up’? 

make it happen! 

clue, used to be my PE teacher! 

Massive chance tomorrow!

full house, on tv, let’s put on a show and get the three points. Win this and the pressure is all on the teams above us. COME ON YOU RAMS! ?

50 minutes ago, Rev said:

Just having a quick glance through the Boro financials, they lost £30m upon their last promotion, presumably based on promotion bonuses being paid out.

Then banked a profit of £7m in their one season in the Prem, before being relegated and sustaining more losses as a result, including a eye watering £30m+ amount in the last reported year.

As these figures are very recent, and the £7m profit figure was inflated by the sale of David Nugent to Derby County, surely we can make the case that our actions actually saved Middlesbrough FC from further losses, based on their recent past performance?

Just give us £5m Gibson, and we'll call it quits.

 

 

Counter claim and take him for everything we can. Even taking off our rose tinted glasses we can all see Gibson has a malicious hatred towards us.

I won’t be happy until he’s living in a cardboard box and his ‘effin nuts’ wife has left him.

actually he can keep his wife.

Brady retires… 

25 minutes ago, David said:

What you want us all to believe @kevinhectoring is that Quantuma failed to persuade 3 QC's that Boro and Wycombe are not football creditors, so with that they have decided that they will get a ruling on this through arbitration, presumedly represented by the QC's that were failed to be persuaded by Quantuma.

In what world would that make any sense at all?

It doesn't.

Quantuma's best move if told that would be to settle with Boro and Wycombe, rather than allow them to win football creditor status legally, would it not?

What would make sense is that Quantuma have been told that Boro and Wycombe have no case at all, do not payout, see if you can get the EFL to jump down off the fence, if not secure the funding and just go get this squashed legally, then there is nothing the EFL, Boro or Wycombe can do.

100% this ?? If they have a legitimate claim to compensation I’ll eat my hat. Absolute vultures the pair of them, football is absolutely broken from top to bottom. A complete overhaul is needed.

Little update as I’m a bit drunk and not much is happening on here ? Clara is doing absolutely amazingly, is surgery free and is now on track for her age. Oh and she’s also a proud big sister to Benjamin who is now 7 months old and is thankfully absolutely fine.

I’d just like to say thank you to everyone who helped me in our time of need, I was in a pretty bad place when Clara was born and this forum and this club kept me going.

thankfully everything is great now. 

this club can’t die and it WON’T die ?

much love to my Rams family ?❤️

37 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

After this weekend we play twice before Peterborough and Reading play again, so potentially we could be out of the bottom three on the 8th of February, I did say potentially.

Come on you rams!! I’d love it if we stayed up! I suggest a tour of England, players, staff and fans combined. We tour the country giving a the V’s to Wycombe and that chap I can’t be arsed to remember the name of, Pube head and them lot… finishing with the Bamford Parry at EFL headquarters. 

All the while chanting ‘DUCK THE EFL’ ‘GIBSON IS A BANKER’ and for that chap at Wycombe ‘WHO THE ducking HELL ARE YOU?’ 
 

a few beers on a Friday night isn’t a bad thing right? 
 

COYR ?❤️

28 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

Pretty underwhelming I'd say, but in the wider scheme of things, at least there is no lingering doubt now that it is indeed the spurious MFC/WWFC claims are are preventing us nominating a preferred buyer and the removal of the latest EFL soft transfer embargo. I think the coordinated PR attacks the EFL & MFC/WWFC were something of a clue in this regard (if really needed), Steve Gibson's in particular, so whilst we remain in 'destination ducked' for the time being, this very modest progress will at least will help to focus minds somewhat. 

As regards the mooted fast track mediation, this can, it appears, be handled very swiftly. Unfortunately, it can also take a deal of time. Essentially, all parties are required to make written submissions to the mediator and herein lies the issue; one might reasonably expect both MFC & WWFC to be ready to proceed without undue delay. Presumably they have already drafted their complaints for the EFL, after all. The obvious concern now though, is will they seek to delay this process too? One thing I would feel certain of is that the intended process is fast track mediation and not fast track via the courts (some are confusing the two) as the latter is often still a protracted process. I also feel certain that this was the rationale behind the one month deadline extension, though this had been strongly hinted at beforehand anyway.

I think two things now need to happen; firstly, all interested parties simply must maintain PR pressure, from us lowly Rams Fans to our vaunted government ministers. It's been a wonderfully unified response to the EFL in particular, but it must continue. The MPs involved especially, given their unfettered access to all concerned parties, must do more to ensure a timely and even-handed resolution is found. Grateful for their support as we are, fine words in themselves are not enough.

Secondly, us fans need to remain as squarely behind the players and the coaches as we have been all season and our lads need to reciprocate by carrying on scrapping for every point available. Every win drags us closer to safety and every lion-hearted effort from players and fans alike secures us more and more neutral support. Let's face it, us Brits absolutely love a fighty underdog and the growing support of the football community could prove a hugely significant factor.

So what's the good news, I hear you ask! Well tomorrow there's a game of football, for a start ? Also, I don't think you'd get long odds about the Blades beating Posh, so a win for us may put us only only 3 points behind them. Reading face a tough trip to QPR too. Hmmm... I am an optimist I conceded but I can't help but feel there's a fairy tale in the making here. Rest assured, every time we do close the gap, the bidders too will get a bit more twitchy too, but in a good way! So they should too. After all, we're Derby and we fight to the end!

COYR

 

Every time we win I get twitchy too mate the mrs always knows if we’ve won ?

Who else is getting a Rooney tattoo if we stay up? Shall we all get matching? I’d leave my wife for him ❤️