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Charlton 2-2 Derby

Collins FRGS

9 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Bit like the Yeovil game a few years ago. Where are you in Cornwall?

Well, we never do things in a straightforward way, do we? It has all the hallmarks of that kind of game.

We live in a small village called Altarnun just off the A30 after Launceston. 

A long way from home!

I have a feeling today will be a topsy turvy game.

It’s all set up for us to be 2-0 down at half time before a roaring comeback to win 3-2, with me shaking my head at my fiancée all evening because we decided against driving up from Cornwall.

Derby 3-2 Oxford

Collins FRGS

Wildsmith

Oduroh - Davies - Cashin - Forsyth

Bird - Smith - Hourihane

NML - Collins - Barkhuizen

-I know our squad is small, but we have enough players to play people in their natural positions, so Oduroh in.

-Davies and Cashin is our most established partnership. They don’t need time to gel. So vital in the centre back position.

-Forsyth should be first choice if he signs up. Roberts will be if not.

-At home, we want to control the game and keep possession. A midfield of Bird and Smith will help us to do that.

-Hourihane can produce something from nothing, so he has to be in, especially if McGoldrick is not fully fit.

-Knight, Sibley and McGoldrick to come off the bench and go after a tired defence could be useful if Oxford prove stubborn.

How many times have we read ‘We’re not here to make up the numbers’? 

Predictions of surviving comfortably? Top 10? Top 8? What am I missing?

You’d think they had won the Championship with over 100 points and signed some world-class internationals from across Europe, given the confidence levels.

Personally I think they are in for a rude awakening.

Awoniyi, Niakhate and Biancone are all unproven and unheralded. Who in Nottingham would have recognised them in the street six weeks ago? 

Equally their other new signings Richards, Williams, Toffolo and O’Brien have played the only football of note in their careers in the Championship.

Henderson and Lingard are strong additions but two players can’t make up for gaping holes and deficiencies across the squad.

It’d be a minor miracle if they finished 17th.

3.5 weeks until their first game and Yates and Colback is still their first choice midfield.

4 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

He still is in his contracted period. 

But surely if we accepted his resignation and agreed to ‘relieve him of his duties’, then any right to compensation is gone?

4 minutes ago, BucksRam said:

I don't really care to be honest.  He left. Most managers would have left last season in our situation.  We now have Liam.  I'll just focus on what he does. 

My only question would be if Rooney is officially announced by DC and Liam is still interim, do we get any compo?

 

Why would we?

If, as people are suggesting, he didn’t leave us to go to DC United, why do they owe us anything?

12 minutes ago, BaaLocks said:

Says "look at the facts" then posts a load of supposition and conjecture. Show me where Rooney left Derby knowing the DC United job was coming up? Go on, I double dare you....

Oh, btw, as you seem so intent on moving the goalposts - your original point was that Rooney is no different to Lampard or Rowett. To remind you, he didn't leave us for another club, the other two did. Simples (again)!

So it’s just a happy accident that weeks after resigning, he has a new job at a club where he previously played and will know everyone from top to bottom and can likely forego a formal recruitment process.

So it’s just a happy accident that DC United have had an interim coach for months, but now suddenly they’ve found their man.

So it’s just a happy accident that Rooney didn’t have the ‘energy’ to continue as manager of DCFC, but weeks later, he is suddenly energised to manage a club that are second bottom in their division in MLS.

Let’s agree to disagree.

14 minutes ago, Rammy03 said:

Rooney didn't leave Derby FOR the job at DC United. He left Derby because of the failed takeovers and the fact that players were starting to leave. He couldn't do the job in the way he thought he would be able to. He was absolutely fed up of the situation. I don't blame him.

You don’t walk into another job weeks later all of a sudden.

If he left because he had had enough of failed takeovers, why would he leave on the day a takeover actually goes through and work can be started to improve the situation?

14 minutes ago, BaaLocks said:

Bangs head against wall....

Rooney quit, at the point his preferred option for the takeover didn't materialise. He did not leave us for another role. Rowett, Lampard and even McClaren did. Simples!

It's really not a difficult concept to grasp, unless you're just here to argue back and forth. In which case, you win, whatever point it is you're making, I'm wrong, woo hoo, well done.

Look at the facts.

Rooney resigned. Rooney is in another job weeks later.

That would suggest he left not because of a failed takeover, otherwise why didn’t he leave when Kirchner’s deal first fell through in the winter?

It’s far more likely that he caught wind that there was another job in the pipeline, perhaps one that could sustain his huge salary.

9 minutes ago, BaaLocks said:

There is, which is why Rowett and Lampard left and Rooney didn't.

You do realise you are actually arguing against yourself now???????????????

Not at all.

They have all left a job unfinished for something better in their eyes. They’re all the same.

You’re saying Rooney is different because he didn’t leave at the first opportunity, but to our knowledge, this is the first job he has been genuinely offered and in the running for, not just linked with.

9 minutes ago, BaaLocks said:

Err, the fact he didn't leave at the first opportunity (Everton)......

There is a big difference between being offered an interview and being offered a job.

I am not sure why people got so upset when Rooney left. 

Someone said it felt like an arrow to the heart. Some were shedding tears. 

Three weeks later, he’s in a new job.

That just shows you that Rooney wasn’t some white knight.

His entire time here was calculated - it was all about Wayne Rooney and building Wayne Rooney’s reputation.

What sets him apart from Rowett or Lampard? Nothing in my eyes.

Let’s move on from the circus. There are better times ahead.

We’re going to lose 2-0 to Oxford on the opening day in front of 30,000, aren’t we?

But that’s OK.

We’ll win the following 45.

Just now, S8TY said:

You forgot to add if we want an ex manager then we’ll go down the Clough Jewell or Phil Brown route 

if we want to go down the never managed route then John Terry or even myself 

if we want to go down the best dressed route then maybe Gareth Ainsworth 

I was just being or trying  to be funny so apologies mate as no offence intended as your best route options doesn’t answer the question just gives multitude of options lol 

Does anyone have the clear and obvious answer at the moment?

The takeover hasn’t been completed yet and we don’t know what kind of vision Clowes has for the club or who he will bring in to work on footballing matters.

I am just excited, personally. I think we would have struggled horribly with Rooney in League 1. For me, some fans built him up too much and placed far too much importance on him, sometimes the identity of the club was lost.

The reality is that Rooney does what’s best for him and it’s not at all surprising to see him walk away. It’s good because we don’t want someone whose heart isn’t in it and doesn’t want to be here.

For me, the biggest news today is that we will still have a club to support. Managers come and go and but the key is there will be life after Rooney.

I think we have many options and there’s an intrigue about us now that there wasn’t before and someone can come in without being haunted by the past 24 months and carrying those scars.

1 minute ago, S8TY said:

Your point is??

We have lots of options. It really depends on the direction that the new ownership group want to go in.

It really depends on what route we would like to go down.

If we want an internal appointment, Wassall is the obvious choice.

If we want someone young, fresh and up-and-coming, Evatt at Bolton and Taylor at Exeter would fit the bill.

If we want someone experienced and out-of-work, Mowbray would make a lot of sense.

If we want someone who has revived a club in a fairly similar position, I’d go for Mark Robins. The job he’s done at Coventry has been superb.

Fantastic news. This is a fresh start and we have to embrace it.

Rooney managing us in League 1 would have been a burden we could do without.

Now we can get back to just being Derby and rebuilding the club with someone at the helm with fresh eyes who is detached from the goings on of the last 18-24 months.

I am reserving judgment on Clowes until I see if there’s chorizo and butterbean stew on the concourse menu or not.

It’s the small things.

6 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

Blueberry, with pouring cream on the side, or I'm  out.

8 minutes ago, Rev said:

What flavour?

Bit in the paper tomorrow.

OK, OK, this has gone on long enough.

I’ll buy the club.

Free cheesecake with every season ticket.