Tyler Durden Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 There's a lot of allegations and counter allegations swirling around this weekend about the comedians historic professional conduct. What I can't understand is these allegations have been made via a documentary, why have they not also been progressed as formal complaints to the Metropolitan police for them to be able to investigate if any criminal behaviour has been undertaken? Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 47 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: There's a lot of allegations and counter allegations swirling around this weekend about the comedians historic professional conduct. What I can't understand is these allegations have been made via a documentary, why have they not also been progressed as formal complaints to the Metropolitan police for them to be able to investigate if any criminal behaviour has been undertaken? Maybe they want to bring a civil action where the burden of proof is only on balance of probabilities , rather than criminal charge where it has to be beyond reasonable doubt. YorkshireRam and Tyler Durden 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Can someone at least give those of us who don't get to see the news in the UK what he's being accused of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Headline I saw was of grooming a 16 year old girl, several sexual assaults, and one woman saying she was raped…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 46 minutes ago, richinspain said: Can someone at least give those of us who don't get to see the news in the UK what he's being accused of? Here you go Rich https://news.sky.com/story/what-are-the-allegations-against-russell-brand-12963256 richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Surly he shouldn't be named before any criminal proceedings are brought against him Red_Dawn and Ewe Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Mick Brolly said: Surly he shouldn't be named before any criminal proceedings are brought against him He can be named until such time as he's arrested. It's a chicken and egg situation but that's how it is. He can then be named again when and if he appears charged at court, unless he's granted anonymity, which in this situation would be superfluous because we'd all know who it is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 It’s a tough one for me in terms of when why and how this is comming out , but by tough one I mean tough for me to be impartial simply because I really dislike the bloke , his behaviour and always thought he was a wrong un , think I will watch how it develops, certainly feel there’s a bad feel around why it was allowed to go unchecked ( if true ) and the timing and motive of burying it all to bring out when suits 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Thinking he must have peed in someone's porridge. This is the way to ruin someone today, cast accusations by way of the media, make them deny it, cancel them where possible, all before or even instead of filing criminal charges. i don't like Brand very much, but this smells. Ram-Alf, Ewe Ram and Anon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 31 minutes ago, Archied said: It’s a tough one for me in terms of when why and how this is comming out , but by tough one I mean tough for me to be impartial simply because I really dislike the bloke , his behaviour and always thought he was a wrong un , think I will watch how it develops, certainly feel there’s a bad feel around why it was allowed to go unchecked ( if true ) and the timing and motive of burying it all to bring out when suits 🤷♂️ He's been at loggerheads with the "Establishment" for a while, His YouTube channel where he talks about conspiracies has wound up some serious players within the media...Covid being one of them, He has a huge following of millions on YouTube, He might/might not talk boll**ks but just a small minority of believers can do some damage. I'm not a fan of his for no other reason than he comes across as a Narcissist, Someone has done there homework to get it this far, Now we await to see if the complainants take it to the Police and the Police are waiting, The BBC are scurrying around for any info while he was working there and a charity who backed him a few years ago has given him the elbow...this is gonna end in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I have a family member who works in comedy promotions in London and this is absolutely NOT news to anyone in the business Jubbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just now, Stive Pesley said: I have a family member who works in comedy promotions in London and this is absolutely NOT news to anyone in the business And nobody has done anything about it? Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I'm sorry but some of the posts in here have me raging. It's always instantly defending the accused rather than sympathising with the victim, or in this case, victims. This isn't just a small accusation that has no evidence, this has been on the cards for years and the victims are finally ready to come out. That's okay and if you actually listened or read any of the news articles, any previous attempts to come out, the victims have been intimidated by Brand's lawyers. There's no way C4 or The Times would have been able to publish anything without evidence. For the past few years Brand has been placing himself on the right side of the political spectrum and has been going with this "anti mainstream media" view because he knows this is his best chance of getting some defenders from the public. When the people speaking out in your favour are Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Carlson Tucker and Katie Hopkins, I can make my own conclusions solely based off that. Look at this from earlier on this year: This is after a 3 year+ investigation with medical records and text conversations etc, this isn't just a small accusation. Here are links for anyone suffering or has suffered. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault/ https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/ https://safeline.org.uk/ Ram-Alf, ariotofmyown, PistoldPete and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: And nobody has done anything about it? Just like Saville. therealhantsram, GB SPORTS, AndyinLiverpool and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: And nobody has done anything about it? I have seen stuff about Brand on social media years ago. I didn't do anything about it, because I am not in a position to prove anything. But it really is no surprise is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jubbs said: I'm sorry but some of the posts in here have me raging. It's always instantly defending the accused rather than sympathising with the victim, or in this case, victims. This isn't just a small accusation that has no evidence, this has been on the cards for years and the victims are finally ready to come out. That's okay and if you actually listened or read any of the news articles, any previous attempts to come out, the victims have been intimidated by Brand's lawyers. There's no way C4 or The Times would have been able to publish anything without evidence. For the past few years Brand has been placing himself on the right side of the political spectrum and has been going with this "anti mainstream media" view because he knows this is his best chance of getting some defenders from the public. When the people speaking out in your favour are Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Carlson Tucker and Katie Hopkins, I can make my own conclusions solely based off that. Look at this from earlier on this year: This is after a 3 year+ investigation with medical records and text conversations etc, this isn't just a small accusation. Here are links for anyone suffering or has suffered. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault/ https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/ https://safeline.org.uk/ Great post. Hopefully he'll go to jail, but he'll probably end up making even more money, peddling lies to the usual insane demographic. therealhantsram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jubbs said: I'm sorry but some of the posts in here have me raging. It's always instantly defending the accused rather than sympathising with the victim, or in this case, victims. This isn't just a small accusation that has no evidence, this has been on the cards for years and the victims are finally ready to come out. That's okay and if you actually listened or read any of the news articles, any previous attempts to come out, the victims have been intimidated by Brand's lawyers. There's no way C4 or The Times would have been able to publish anything without evidence. For the past few years Brand has been placing himself on the right side of the political spectrum and has been going with this "anti mainstream media" view because he knows this is his best chance of getting some defenders from the public. When the people speaking out in your favour are Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Carlson Tucker and Katie Hopkins, I can make my own conclusions solely based off that. Look at this from earlier on this year: This is after a 3 year+ investigation with medical records and text conversations etc, this isn't just a small accusation. Here are links for anyone suffering or has suffered. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault/ https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/ https://safeline.org.uk/ Agree with all of this, aside from the implication that he's moved to the right/conspiracy theorist end of the spectrum so people defend him. I reckon he just went where the money took him, like Fox, Hopkins, James English, etc. The unexpected side benefit turned out to be the ability to blame "the matrix" when the story broke. Edited September 17, 2023 by DarkFruitsRam7 Jubbs, therealhantsram and Alph 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Jubbs said: I'm sorry but some of the posts in here have me raging. It's always instantly defending the accused rather than sympathising with the victim, or in this case, victims. This isn't just a small accusation that has no evidence, this has been on the cards for years and the victims are finally ready to come out. That's okay and if you actually listened or read any of the news articles, any previous attempts to come out, the victims have been intimidated by Brand's lawyers. There's no way C4 or The Times would have been able to publish anything without evidence. For the past few years Brand has been placing himself on the right side of the political spectrum and has been going with this "anti mainstream media" view because he knows this is his best chance of getting some defenders from the public. When the people speaking out in your favour are Elon Musk, Andrew Tate, Carlson Tucker and Katie Hopkins, I can make my own conclusions solely based off that. Look at this from earlier on this year: This is after a 3 year+ investigation with medical records and text conversations etc, this isn't just a small accusation. Here are links for anyone suffering or has suffered. https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/sexual-health/help-after-rape-and-sexual-assault/ https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-help/want-to-talk/ https://safeline.org.uk/ Who on here has defended him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Who on here has defended him? No one has said "I think he's innocent" but people have questioned the victims and saying it stinks or is just cancel culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I've seen a few articles from "back in the day" popping up again in light of the allegations, but I thought this was an especially interesting article. Certainly corroborates the idea that he's particularly litigious when it comes to these allegations, and may explain why these allegations have come out in the media before the legal system: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/sep/11/russell-brand-jemima-khan-masseuse-court-order-harassing Also, the fact that Mr Anti-establishment was shacking up with Jemima Khan (common as muck, she is) is funnier than any routine he's ever performed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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