kevinhectoring Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 On 22/08/2023 at 11:10, RoyMac5 said: Hope he doesn't hear this... 😄 its just disgusting r_wilcockson and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Sonny Bradley makes Claude Davis look like Franz Beckenbauer he is rubbish Magicman and MackworthRamIsGod 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, G-Ram said: Sonny Bradley makes Claude Davis look like Franz Beckenbauer he is rubbish I actually thought played ok today apart from the sending off! Trying to warm to Nelson as well but is so immobile. G-Ram and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Bradley was great with dealing with the Ariel aspect, but one on one or playing out, it's very much keogh territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Bradley was great with dealing with the Ariel aspect, but one on one or playing out, it's very much keogh territory Keogh was great at playing out, not having that r_wilcockson, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, QuitYourJibbaJivin and 11 others 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 43 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Bradley was great with dealing with the Ariel aspect, but one on one or playing out, it's very much keogh territory What a Bold comment, How come we aren't keeping clean sheets then? RoyMac5, Blondest Goat, Ilsonram12 and 4 others 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, cannable said: Keogh was great at playing out, not having that Keogh was great at pretty much everything 99% of the time, and terrible at it the other 1%, which makes him a very difficult player to evaluate. Bradley is completely different though - he probably is a good defender (even if we haven’t really seen it much yet), but he’s always going to be slow and ropey on the ball. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Bradley is error prone like Keogh and as useless as Albentosa. Ilsonram12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 29 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Keogh was great at pretty much everything 99% of the time, and terrible at it the other 1%, which makes him a very difficult player to evaluate. Bradley is completely different though - he probably is a good defender (even if we haven’t really seen it much yet), but he’s always going to be slow and ropey on the ball. Keogh + ability to concentrate = Premier league defender Keogh on his own = Wembley 2014 Bradley....just kind of OK but the mistakes are making it hard to see him succeeding here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Keogh was great at pretty much everything 99% of the time, and terrible at it the other 1%, which makes him a very difficult player to evaluate. Bradley is completely different though - he probably is a good defender (even if we haven’t really seen it much yet), but he’s always going to be slow and ropey on the ball. Yeah he’s terrible 99% of the time Rammy03, Jimbo Ram, Walkley Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ilsonram12 said: Bradley was great with dealing with the Ariel aspect, but one on one or playing out, it's very much keogh territory Keogh was decent the vast majority of the time… Carnero, Rammy03, r_wilcockson and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said: The problem is when he makes an error it's usually fatal because he's often the last man and his lack of mobility means he has no chance of atoning it. Blimey! This holiday destination of ours is becoming a curse! Last year, The Queen died when we were here. This year one of our players is up for causing death by dangerous ball control! 😲 #perspective #Itsonlyagame #ivetoldyouamilliontimesnottoexaggerate #etc DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Leeds Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Ilsonram12 said: Bradley was great with dealing with the Ariel aspect, but one on one or playing out, it's very much keogh territory Keogh was quality, he had the occasional c*** up but overall was a very solid championship defender. Was brilliant at driving the ball out of defence, just not very good at turning down lifts from people driving under the influence. See what I did Ram a lamb a ding dong and CapeTownRams 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: Yeah he’s terrible 99% of the time Joking aside, the point I was trying to make is that you can probably use Keogh in pretty much any type of system and he’s going to be good 99% of the time and *really* bad 1% of it. But Bradley has a fixed set of thing he’s good and bad at. If you play him in the right system, he’ll be good 100% of the time. If you play him in the wrong system, he’ll be bad 100% of the time. Luton seemed to have been in the second group, and we look like we’re in the first. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 1 minute ago, duncanjwitham said: Joking aside, the point I was trying to make is that you can probably use Keogh in pretty much any type of system and he’s going to be good 99% of the time and *really* bad 1% of it. But Bradley has a fixed set of thing he’s good and bad at. If you play him in the right system, he’ll be good 100% of the time. If you play him in the wrong system, he’ll be bad 100% of the time. Luton seemed to have been in the second group, and we look like we’re in the first. To be fair, Warne seems to like playing most of our players in systems that don’t suit them… r_wilcockson and DCFC Kicks 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said: Joking aside, the point I was trying to make is that you can probably use Keogh in pretty much any type of system and he’s going to be good 99% of the time and *really* bad 1% of it. But Bradley has a fixed set of thing he’s good and bad at. If you play him in the right system, he’ll be good 100% of the time. If you play him in the wrong system, he’ll be bad 100% of the time. Luton seemed to have been in the second group, and we look like we’re in the first. Hold on, a simple pass back as per Wigan should be within the scope of any professional to complete 999/1000. A simple nudge out for a throw as per today likewise. To lose us two games out of 3 starts with such Sunday league morning-after-the-night-before errors is nothing to do with systems or his role. It's bog standard basics. Edited September 2, 2023 by MaltRam r_wilcockson and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, MaltRam said: Hold on, a simple pass back as per Wigan should be within the scope of any professional to complete 999/1000. A simple nudge out for a throw as per today likewise. To lose us two games out of 3 starts with such Sunday league morning-after-the-night-before errors is nothing to do with systems or his role. It's bog standard basics. Pretty much all of the mistakes he’s made have been the same type of situations - him trying to control and pass the ball while unopposed attackers close him down. He’s very clearly not comfortable with the ball at his feet under pressure. You can argue whether he should be good at that, but he’s a League One defender - he’s probably going to be rubbish at something or other, or not great at a whole bunch of stuff, otherwise he’d be playing at a higher level. The point with systems is, the spread back 3 that Warne plays, combined with the midfield that go box-to-box all the time, means that we’re basically engineering the situations that Bradley struggles with the most. He’s going to end up with the ball at his feet, no other defenders within 20 yards and no midfield cover, a whole lot of times in every single game. If we played a compact defence, or had someone sitting protecting him, it would happen a lot less often. And the more often he ends up in those situations, the more likely he is to screw one of them up in a given match. angieram, bucktwo, May Contain Nuts and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Pretty much all of the mistakes he’s made have been the same type of situations - him trying to control and pass the ball while unopposed attackers close him down. He’s very clearly not comfortable with the ball at his feet under pressure. You can argue whether he should be good at that, but he’s a League One defender - he’s probably going to be rubbish at something or other, or not great at a whole bunch of stuff, otherwise he’d be playing at a higher level. The point with systems is, the spread back 3 that Warne plays, combined with the midfield that go box-to-box all the time, means that we’re basically engineering the situations that Bradley struggles with the most. He’s going to end up with the ball at his feet, no other defenders within 20 yards and no midfield cover, a whole lot of times in every single game. If we played a compact defence, or had someone sitting protecting him, it would happen a lot less often. And the more often he ends up in those situations, the more likely he is to screw one of them up in a given match. I take your point. Not sure I entirely agree, but thanks for explaining your angle. duncanjwitham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, MaltRam said: I take your point. Not sure I entirely agree, but thanks for explaining your angle. Is the reality of a situation based upon a body of evidence an angle? Or is it a truth some refuse to see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 3, 2023 Share Posted September 3, 2023 5 hours ago, 8Leeds said: Keogh was quality, he had the occasional c*** up but overall was a very solid championship defender. Was brilliant at driving the ball out of defence, just not very good at turning down lifts from people driving under the influence. See what I did Good post...............Not so good after hitting Tom Lawrences' car though. 8Leeds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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