GB SPORTS Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, valakari said: Scott Malone, Lee Buchanan, Max Lowe, Callum Elder, even Ashley Cole...and still its Fozzy...wow what a man! And Marcus Olsson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 2 hours ago, I DONT MIND said: And Marcus Olsson. And Stephen Warnock, and even Haydon Roberts under Rosenior GB SPORTS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 20/08/2023 at 11:12, On the Ram Page said: Would urge people to watch the Stoke game again. Bradley was colossal. He will come again. That's because we were defending deep for a lot of the game with teammate all around him. That's how the teams he previously played for play. That's why Warne wanted him because he suits the way he played at Rotherham. Bradley and Warne have never been at a club like Derby where you have to take the game to the opposition who are the ones who sit back and defend. Chris_Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, DCFC Kicks said: That's because we were defending deep for a lot of the game with teammate all around him. That's how the teams he previously played for play. That's why Warne wanted him because he suits the way he played at Rotherham. Bradley and Warne have never been at a club like Derby where you have to take the game to the opposition who are the ones who sit back and defend. Don't know anything about Bradley and Luton but there is not a cat in hell's chance that Warne's Rotherham didn't take the game to the opposition and just sat back and defended. Chris_Martin and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said: That's because we were defending deep for a lot of the game with teammate all around him. That's how the teams he previously played for play. That's why Warne wanted him because he suits the way he played at Rotherham. Bradley and Warne have never been at a club like Derby where you have to take the game to the opposition who are the ones who sit back and defend. exactly this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Chris_Martin said: exactly this. Absolute nonsense Chris_Martin and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 On 20/08/2023 at 15:07, Ghost of Clough said: And Stephen Warnock, and even Haydon Roberts under Rosenior don't forget dylan williams briefly too😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Chris_Martin said: don't forget dylan williams briefly too😅 If you're going that far, you can throw in Weimann and Anya at wing back too Chris_Martin and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Blondest Goat said: Don't know anything about Bradley and Luton but there is not a cat in hell's chance that Warne's Rotherham didn't take the game to the opposition and just sat back and defended. i don't ever recall rotherham being heavy favourites for any match during their time in the championship. They stayed compact, men behind the ball and tried to break when they eventually won it back. They were a team that relied heavily on set pieces and headed goals. I can agree with you that they always got stuck in and were up for a fight, but they were never expansive or tried to outplay any opponent. The previous point was that derby is a very different club to rotherham. and therefore requires a different mindset/approach Blondest Goat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said: That's because we were defending deep for a lot of the game with teammate all around him. That's how the teams he previously played for play. That's why Warne wanted him because he suits the way he played at Rotherham. Bradley and Warne have never been at a club like Derby where you have to take the game to the opposition who are the ones who sit back and defend. That is just wrong. You must be getting Warne confused with Rowett. Warne did not sit back and defend at Rotherham. Clearly you never actually watched them play. Premier ram and Blondest Goat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) It's not to say Bradley, Elder and co can't turn it around and become good players for us, but highlights the importance of first impressions for new players coming in. Both have proven themselves at this level and higher. Both should be good players for this club and make a significant impact this season, but it shows how quickly things can snowball. Bradley looks like he's playing distracted as someone else has put, honestly wouldn't be surprised if there is something going on in his private life that is ultimately having an impact. He saw out the last 5 games of the season for Luton last season and as far as I can tell played pretty well. I'm just not sure why there is such a drop-off in his performances. Albentosa is a good example because he was winning national acclaim in Spain and looked absolutely honking for us. Mike te Wierik is another example, but these were also foreign nationals who just couldn't settle. Edited August 21, 2023 by Ambitious SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthDerbysRam Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 24 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: i don't ever recall rotherham being heavy favourites for any match during their time in the championship. They stayed compact, men behind the ball and tried to break when they eventually won it back. They were a team that relied heavily on set pieces and headed goals. I can agree with you that they always got stuck in and were up for a fight, but they were never expansive or tried to outplay any opponent. The previous point was that derby is a very different club to rotherham. and therefore requires a different mindset/approach We'll be outspent by 2/3rds of the Championship, if we ever get promoted back up under Warne. This is how we'll need to play, if we go back up, to be competitive. A big similarity to Rotherham in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie George Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 No idea where he lived in his Luton days,but I have it on good authority he resides at Barton upon Humber,which for those don't know is the other side of The Humber Bridge from his native Hull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DCFC Kicks said: That's because we were defending deep for a lot of the game with teammate all around him. That's how the teams he previously played for play. That's why Warne wanted him because he suits the way he played at Rotherham. Bradley and Warne have never been at a club like Derby where you have to take the game to the opposition who are the ones who sit back and defend. Exactly my thoughts. He looks like a head it, kick it, block it defender who is unhappy with space behind him or when he has to use the ball. Of course it's early days but so far he's looked an absolute liability - longer term I wouldn't expect him to turn out to be that but neither can I see him being the key player we hoped. Edited August 21, 2023 by trappatoni DCFC Kicks and Chris_Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, SouthDerbysRam said: We'll be outspent by 2/3rds of the Championship, if we ever get promoted back up under Warne. This is how we'll need to play, if we go back up, to be competitive. A big similarity to Rotherham in my opinion. I would imagine that when we get back to the Championship, depending on the state of the club, there will be interest in buyers. How often does a club the size of Derby County, debt-free, come available in the second tier? Championship clubs are seeing a spike in investment at the minute because of the Premier League money. It's not assured, of course, but football is cyclical and Derby already has infrastructure. I get the impression that Clowes would rather make his time as Derby owner a short, but sweet one too (if possible). Carl Sagan and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 hour ago, SouthDerbysRam said: We'll be outspent by 2/3rds of the Championship, if we ever get promoted back up under Warne. This is how we'll need to play, if we go back up, to be competitive. A big similarity to Rotherham in my opinion. why is it? whats stopping us from selecting a manager that plays good attacking football and doing well in the championship aswell? DCFC Kicks and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Leeds Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: why is it? whats stopping us from selecting a manager that plays good attacking football and doing well in the championship aswell? A contract with three years remaining we can’t afford to pay off 😁 Eddie, Chris_Martin and DCFC Kicks 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 9 hours ago, trappatoni said: Exactly my thoughts. He looks like a head it, kick it, block it defender who is unhappy with space behind him or when he has to use the ball. Of course it's early days but so far he's looked an absolute liability - longer term I wouldn't expect him to turn out to be that but neither can I see him being the key player we hoped. Worked for Jack Charlton Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 38 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Worked for Jack Charlton It did but he had 9 other fantastic footballers surrounding him, who by the time they were finishing their glittering, trophy winning and international caps winning careers were only about the same age as all of the lower league journeymen we have signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 22, 2023 Share Posted August 22, 2023 Hope he doesn't hear this... 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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