Carl Sagan Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Curtains said: I’m none the wiser but I think Warne intimated if fee was right for Bird then ?! If the fee is right for anyone they're off. Everyone is for sale at the right price. Curtains, nogbad van 50, cstand and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Carl Sagan said: If the fee is right for anyone they're off. Everyone is for sale at the right price. Thanks for that. None of knew that so we are very grateful for your insight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggerB Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jubbs said: TBF, Alex Scott is a superb player and will be wanted by Top 6 clubs in about 2 years when he does well at Bournemouth/Wolves and has won the U19 Euro's. £20m is a lot, but it's a good investment for any prem club. Your talking apples and oranges. What Pearson says he won’t sell Scott for less than, and what the club will eventually accept may be vastly different. As likely is the valuation from a lower half champ team for a L1 player than that of established PL teams for a champ midfielder, regardless of age. Edit. Not directed at you Jubbs but the original post. Edited August 1, 2023 by DiggerB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vonwright Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) I'd be less bothered about selling Bird (for a suitably high fee) if I had any confidence the money would be reinvested, and reinvested well. By which I mean e.g. selling a promising young player for £2m and reinvesting in e.g. two other players for (say) 500k or 750k each. The sale of Knight doesn't fill me with much confidence now we are scratching around in the Rhodes/Waghorn/Sharp bargain bin for ageing out of contract strikers. The midfield and attack needed strengthening even before we lost Knight, McGoldrick and now perhaps Bird. If we can't or won't pay fees for quality (preferably youngish) players out of the profits from sales, then given the frees on offer to us then I'd rather we didn't sell. We have strengthened really well at the back but there were so many times last season we got outworked and outplayed in midfield and lacked pace and guile up front. If we go into next season with the squad we have, I imagine the same will happen again. Even more so if we lose Bird without signing adequate reenforcements. Edited August 1, 2023 by vonwright Jayram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: Been told the bid from Hull for Bird was 300k 🤣 No wonder its way off & derisory Did they miss a 0 off the end? With Knight going for somewhere in the region of £1.7m given his identical contract situation and similar age then clearly nothing under £1m would be entertained, and even then I suspect we'd negotiate considerably upward. Interesting Warne said that he could spend £300k on one player if he wanted, but couldn't get anyone of the required quality in for that. Sounds like Rosenior read it and said "challenge accepted" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKWORTHRAM Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said: If the fee is right for anyone they're off. Everyone is for sale at the right price. Exactly mate. Like Warne said. Tottenham don't want to sell Harry Kane. But he's got a year left. Everyone has their price. Betty Swollocks and Carl Sagan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 9 hours ago, Big Trav said: They've been sniffing around Birdy all summer long. We are going to get to crunch time soon with him only having a year left on his deal Strange - thought it was the perfect opportunity to say that the Club have approached Max about a new contract /extension - but no mention and seems they haven’t - now would be the perfect time for both parties I would think .:: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 9 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said: Would have to bring someone in before he left in my opinion. We are already short in midfield so selling him with no replacement would be daft. Not sure if we got a relatively decent fee for him (£2 million) that this would allow Warne to spend maybe half of it. If we replaced him with a midfielder who chips in with more goals then I'm ok with it. He's only got a year left. So he either stays and signs a new deal or moves on. The way PW spoke of the Knight money on the radio it seems that even if we sold Bird we wouldn’t necessarily be able to use some or all of it to buy a replacement .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, caymanram said: Strange - thought it was the perfect opportunity to say that the Club have approached Max about a new contract /extension - but no mention and seems they haven’t - now would be the perfect time for both parties I would think .:: He did say they want Bird to sign a new contract. There is a link to it on one on the many threads. Might even be in the Derby Telegraph now as well Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Been told the bid for Birdy was 10x lower than what they value him and was laughed off Carnero, Andicis, Ram@Lincoln and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Been told the bid for Birdy was 10x lower than what they value him and was laughed off Your source baffles me. Only knows things if someone is physically in the building, but also seems to know how much incoming bids are. Unless multiple members of staff were walking round laughing all afternoon I guess. Ramarena, MackworthRamIsGod and Ambitious 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Been told the bid for Birdy was 10x lower than what they value him and was laughed off Any other gossip BT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 We've lost the plot if we let Bird go. If we can't reinvest the money I'd much rather us keep the player and hope we are a championship club this time next season HorsforthRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 You would think there is a new contract to be agreed that would suit all parties because Hull are not the most tempting proposition surely? Contract extension with a slight raise/incentives this season. A promise of a decent increase for next season and a bigger one if we go up, plus a reasonable buy out clause if we don't. He's taking a risk if he doesn't sign and gets injured. Let's him know if he backs himself and plays well eg £3m will get him a move to the Championship regardless. He hasn't exactly bossed this League so let's see him do that. I'm not overly worried, as others have said him, Hourihane, Smith is a little one-paced and lacking in dynamism anyway. We just need to know. DiggerB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, Chester40 said: You would think there is a new contract to be agreed that would suit all parties because Hull are not the most tempting proposition surely? Contract extension with a slight raise/incentives this season. A promise of a decent increase for next season and a bigger one if we go up, plus a reasonable buy out clause if we don't. He's taking a risk if he doesn't sign and gets injured. Let's him know if he backs himself and plays well eg £3m will get him a move to the Championship regardless. He hasn't exactly bossed this League so let's see him do that. I'm not overly worried, as others have said him, Hourihane, Smith is a little one-paced and lacking in dynamism anyway. We just need to know. A nice compromise suggested there, wonder if the business plan would allow it? 🤔 We’ve given contracts to 2 young prospects in Rooney and Brown so there must be some allowance on that front. But yeah I like the idea of making Bird top earner, add a % increase if we’re promoted which is a fairly normal clause in football contracts I think, and a sensible release clause if we’re not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmoram1995 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Big Trav said: Been told the bid for Birdy was 10x lower than what they value him and was laughed off I heard similar £300k + add ons 400k £3.5m -4m + 20-25% sell on id take Somersall Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Wonder if derby could get creative with a contract offer? 3 year deal. Slight increase in salary as a gesture of goodwill. A £2m release clause next summer if still in league 1. Doesn’t exist if in the championship. A decent pay rise upon promotion to the championship. Carnero, Caerphilly Ram and sage 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Srg said: Your source baffles me. Only knows things if someone is physically in the building, but also seems to know how much incoming bids are. Unless multiple members of staff were walking round laughing all afternoon I guess. Honestly I agree with you😂 we speak pretty much every day and I’ve been begging them to give me names. sage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Big Trav said: Honestly I agree with you😂 we speak pretty much every day and I’ve been begging them to give me names. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Sign him up on a 2 year contract extension and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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