archram Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Papa Johns Trophy Derby County v Manchester City U21s Tuesday 18th October at 7pm at Pride Park Stadium I don’t entirely understand the system ( true of many things!) but I think if we win or draw this we qualify for the knockout round? If it’s a draw I don’t want any nonsense like the last game ! ? i-Ram, SKRam, jono and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, archram said: Papa Johns Trophy Derby County v Manchester City U21s Tuesday 18th October at 7pm at Pride Park Stadium I don’t entirely understand the system ( true of many things!) but I think if we win or draw this we qualify for the knockout round? If it’s a draw I don’t want any nonsense like the last game ! ? So we have established that you can actually draw then.☺️ archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Andrew3000, i-Ram, Ramarena and 7 others 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Waste of time and resources. We really should select our u21's for this game. No point in risking senior players getting injured. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 28/08/2022 at 16:17, Stuniverse said: I had no idea what rules you were referring to… so I asked Google: 7 PLAYERS 7.1 In all rounds of the Competition a Player must be a “Registered Player” of his Club. 7.2 For the EFL Clubs, a Registered Player is one who: 7.2.1 would be registered and eligible to participate in a match in the League Competition for that EFL Club commencing at the same time and on the same date as the Match in accordance with the provisions of the Regulations or would have been but for the operation of Regulation 44.9 (Squad Lists) (as amended from time to time); or 7.2.2 would be so eligible but for the fact that they are registered on a Long Term Loan at a club playing in the National League (National Division, North Division or South Division) but by the agreement of the Club, the National League club and the Player he has permission to return to play in this Competition. 7.3 Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches. Guidance ‘Full Available Strength’ means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet. 7.4 Qualifying Player means any Player who: 7.4.1 had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below); 7.4.2 subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture; 7.4.3 is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season; 7.4.4 has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or 7.4.5 is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy. 7.5 First Team Fixture means the League Competition, Premier League, EFL Cup or FA Challenge Cup (but shall, in the context of Rules 7.4.3 and 7.4.4 only, also include this Competition). 7.6 Any EFL Club failing to meet the requirement to play Full Available Strength will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000. A reminder of the rules for folk, given we have the vital game at Ipswich three days later. If we can afford it I'd likely take the fine, but if we're not taking the fine and are looking for four qualifying outfield players, I would pick: Stearman, Forsyth, Smith (for fitness) and Roberts giving a team of: Loach Stearman Rooney Roberts Oduroh Thompson Smith Ibrahim Forsyth Lo-Everton Cybulski 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiano27 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Carl Sagan said: A reminder of the rules for folk, given we have the vital game at Ipswich three days later. If we can afford it I'd likely take the fine, but if we're not taking the fine and are looking for four qualifying outfield players, I would pick: Stearman, Forsyth, Smith (for fitness) and Roberts giving a team of: Loach Stearman Rooney Roberts Oduroh Thompson Smith Ibrahim Forsyth Lo-Everton Cybulski Bart is on loan at Matlock now Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Can we play Collins here if he’s still suspended for league games? Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Apart from the fact winning is a habit and breeds confidence, I couldn't give a toss about this competition. Rest the most important players, we've got a busy schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magicman Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Think you need 4/5 players who played in last league game. Loach Rooney Stearman Roberts Oduroh Thompson Smith Bird Forsyth mcGoldrick Osula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I think he’ll play most of the first team in two halves to give them a run out without tiring them too much. Reserve keeper throughout, five first teamers each half, probably with a slightly stronger starting lineup to try to get a lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, roboto said: Can we play Collins here if he’s still suspended for league games? I thought we could as the 3 game suspension only applies to league games. Could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Wistaston Ram said: I thought we could as the 3 game suspension only applies to league games. Could be wrong. Domestic bans are usually just that. e.g. if you get sent off in an FA Cup game, you're banned in the league too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, baiano27 said: Bart is on loan at Matlock now Think we can recall for games for these loans if required Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Assuming Collins is suspended for 3 LEAGUE games, then he absolutely has to start this game. admira 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Carnero said: Assuming Collins is suspended for 3 LEAGUE games, then he absolutely has to start this game. On the other hand, it would be useful if this game counts as one of the 3 game suspension. jono, RadioactiveWaste, SKRam and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Would have thought Collins is suspended for this one. Surely can't play during a 3-game ban, no matter what the competition is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Suspensions in this competition and the League do not cross over as far as I know. Loach Rooney Stearman Forsyth Oduroh Hourihane Smith Tommo Roberts Collins McGoldrick Subs: Wildsmith, Cashin, Mendez-Laing, Knight, Aghatise, Haigh, Wheeldon The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Suspensions in this competition and the League do not cross over as far as I know. Loach Rooney Stearman Forsyth Oduroh Hourihane Smith Tommo Roberts Collins McGoldrick Subs: Wildsmith, Cashin, Mendez-Laing, Knight, Aghatise, Haigh, Wheeldon Stearman will pocket Haaland, no sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, ram59 said: On the other hand, it would be useful if this game counts as one of the 3 game suspension. It definitely doesn’t count as one of his games but not sure if he is allowed to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Foreveram said: It definitely doesn’t count as one of his games but not sure if he is allowed to play. Imagine if games were called off due to circumstances out of our control (internationals, Covid, weather, etc), and we ended up playing 3 EFL Trophy games before completing the 3rd League game. It would be absolutely ridiculous for a '3 game ban' to actually ban someone for 6 games. jono and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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