Raich Carter Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 I think PW is exactly the right man for us at the moment. With a very limited budget, under-performing players and players that aren't 'his' I think he did pretty well. If we can have a proper run at next season I feel we could really have a chance of automatics if we can keep hold of Bird, Knight, etc. deanoakaram4life, andyburton72, Jourdan and 7 others 5 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, GeneralRam said: Bloke has been mediocre and nothing special. That might change when he can buy his own players but 1 word to sum up my posts is ‘meh’ FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: He took over when we were 7th and we finished in 7th, read in to that what you will. The way I read it is I expected this season to be a challenge as it would take new players time to blend. So for Warne to take us from 7th when we were still trying to blend players together to 7th at end of season is a pretty spectacular failure by Warne. Archied and BPV 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaahnRam Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Can't help but feel that missing a top 6 place is a failure with the team we have. Yes we've had a small squad but we've been pretty fortunate with injuries. Having said that, I feel next season was always going to be what Warne was really going to be judged in so let's see. Let's start bringing in these plan B players, get a full pre season in and see what's happens. If we fail again then we need to start asking questions BPV, Gerry Daly, Papahet and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: The way I read it is I expected this season to be a challenge as it would take new players time to blend. So for Warne to take us from 7th when we were still trying to blend players together to 7th at end of season is a pretty spectacular failure by Warne. Really, not his squad, not his players, under restrictions. Satisfactory in his end of year report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Let’s be honest, Clowes can’t admit it due to being the owner, but if someone asked him in private without any chance of it getting out. Im certain he’s angry that we haven’t made top 6. league 1 specialist bought in when we were 7th. Finished 7th. That’s p1ss poor. alram, May Contain Nuts, RoyMac5 and 6 others 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 prove me wrong warne but i am not convinced his way is the way Dcfcsr92 and BPV 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Let’s be honest, Clowes can’t admit it due to being the owner, but if someone asked him in private without any chance of it getting out. Im certain he’s angry that we haven’t made top 6. league 1 specialist bought in when we were 7th. Finished 7th. That’s p1ss poor. You do realise we've been narrowly beaten once by Sheff Weds this season who have had an extra year in Lg1 (without financial restrictions) and we still might play them again next season? Its been a tough league to get out of this year and whilst it may not have ended how we hoped, I remain confident that with a proper recruitment team in place this summer and a proven manager getting the players in he wants next season will be much better. COYR BucksRam, Andicis, FlyBritishMidland and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Rosenior took 14 points from his 9 games in charge. Against the same opposition Warne only took 8 points. We never improved under Warne. Our good runs under him just coincided with playing crap teams. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 52 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Warne has failed this season. 37 matches and we went from 7th to 7th. Richer men than me will decide his fate but he can’t come out of this season with his head held high. The 2 months of relegation form was unacceptable and ultimately cost us. People might say he couldn’t bring in any players but most season previews I listened to had us finishing top 6 with our squad. He’ll have my support at the ground next season if he’s in charge which I expect him to be but I wouldn’t be sad if he left. A couple of the Sky commo team before the game were suggesting that with our squad we should be finishing top 6. The scots bloke (name forgotten) even suggested that Warne might be worried about his job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Rosenior took 14 points from his 9 games in charge. Against the same opposition Warne only took 8 points. We never improved under Warne. Our good runs under him just coincided with playing crap teams. It’s a top troll job not to understand that football is not played against the final table. Teams all go through form and changes. You do have previous of just looking at flat data though Think back to day 1 of the season, we thought beating Oxford was a good result. Turns out Oxford were awful this season. maxjam, Caerphilly Ram, Crewton and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Just now, Bris Vegas said: Rosenior took 14 points from his 9 games in charge. Against the same opposition Warne only took 8 points. We never improved under Warne. Our good runs under him just coincided with playing crap teams. Didn't we also need to create 100* chances under Rosenior to score goals, just as we have needed to do under Warne? We've not been clinical enough and the small squad looked tired at times as the season progressed. I personally think the biggest hurdle we faced was the EFLs financial restrictions, other clubs around us strengthened during the Winter transfer window whereas we couldn't bring anyone in - ultimately leaving us short. *maybe a slight exaggeration, although didn't feel like it at times 😛 Andicis and Srg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 48 minutes ago, Raich Carter said: I think PW is exactly the right man for us at the moment. With a very limited budget, under-performing players and players that aren't 'his' I think he did pretty well. If we can have a proper run at next season I feel we could really have a chance of automatics if we can keep hold of Bird, Knight, etc. just got back , we were stitched up like a kipper.But the way that Knight and Fozzy waved to the fans after the final whistle,I don’t think they will be with us next season. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Srg said: It’s a top troll job not to understand that football is not played against the final table. Teams all go through form and changes. You do have previous of just looking at flat data though Think back to day 1 of the season, we thought beating Oxford was a good result. Turns out Oxford were awful this season. But key positions are more often than not determined by direct results against your rivals. Look at City and Arsenal. City 82 Arsenal 78 Flip the two results around and you have Arsenal on 84 and City on 76. We have missed out on the playoffs because our results against those around us haven’t been good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, maxjam said: Didn't we also need to create 100* chances under Rosenior to score goals, just as we have needed to do under Warne? We've not been clinical enough and the small squad looked tired at times as the season progressed. I personally think the biggest hurdle we faced was the EFLs financial restrictions, other clubs around us strengthened during the Winter transfer window whereas we couldn't bring anyone in - ultimately leaving us short. *maybe a slight exaggeration, although didn't feel like it at times 😛 But wouldn’t you rather create a 100 chances to score a couple of goals compared to creating only 5 chances and scoring no goals? The proof is in the pudding. Rosenior’s football was more effective as we took more points against the same opposition. And we looked pretty decent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Bris Vegas said: But wouldn’t you rather create a 100 chances to score a couple of goals compared to creating only 5 chances and scoring no goals? The proof is in the pudding. Rosenior’s football was more effective as we took more points against the same opposition. And we looked pretty decent as well. No - the proof is in the eating RoyMac5 and maxjam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: But wouldn’t you rather create a 100 chances to score a couple of goals compared to creating only 5 chances and scoring no goals? Edit: The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Rosenior’s football was more effective as we took more points against the same opposition. And we looked pretty decent as well. So what if you are correct, how does that take us forward, Rosenior has gone. Edited May 7, 2023 by RoyMac5 Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Rosenior took 14 points from his 9 games in charge. Against the same opposition Warne only took 8 points. We never improved under Warne. Our good runs under him just coincided with playing crap teams. How many times do you want to beat us over the head with this opinion? We get it, you've made it often enough. Caerphilly Ram and Archied 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Bris Vegas said: But wouldn’t you rather create a 100 chances to score a couple of goals compared to creating only 5 chances and scoring no goals? The proof is in the pudding. Rosenior’s football was more effective as we took more points against the same opposition. And we looked pretty decent as well. We've created more than enough chances under Warne to win matches comfortably, we've just not been clinical enough all season and not been able to spend the money to reinforce. I am disappointed we haven't made the play-offs but also think we've finished just about where I expected with the squad we've got. We we're a couple of players short at the start of the season and watching the teams around us strengthen during January made things increasingly difficult. With a proper recruitment team in place this summer and manager that knows how to get out of the division, I expect us to be a lot happier this time next season. Caerphilly Ram and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 The waving is a good indication that some know that was there last game, warne knows who he wants, some over reaction on his tenure but I'd like to see him given a pre season and get some of his players in and then judge him next season jimtastic56, Caerphilly Ram, Andicis and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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