Mostyn6 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Without posting anything defamatory, where do you stand on Stephen Pearce's future at Derby County. My own feeling is that he is an accomplice to the destruction of the good times at Derby, either by joint venture, or by being too weak to guide MM away from Danger. I personally think he should walk away. Edited April 13, 2022 by Mostyn6 to add 'POLL' to title TomG, Steve How Hard? and Kathcairns 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Part of the problem. And blimey do we have some problems. I think he will wait to be defenestrated. jimtastic56 and TomG 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Who on earth voted to keep him here? Mostyn6, JPRamFan, Ted McMinn Football Genius and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Who on earth voted to keep him here? I might have done. Not sure. I just click on one of the options. Ted McMinn Football Genius 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 It is time for him to walk away but before he leaves he gets the keys of mel and give to admin to give to new owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 It's obvious he's still there as basically the only person who actually understands the intricate arrangements of the Mel Morris era. Under new ownership, 100% get rid. Should be pretty obvious he's not going to resign and will have to be sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I might have done. Not sure. I just click on one of the options. ?????? Hi Stephen ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: I might have done. Not sure. I just click on one of the options. On all of the polls ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: On all of the polls ? On the ones where I have no opinion one way or the other. I just want to see the results. On the match prediction thing I always chose 'lose'. Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Clearly he has been party to some catastrophic decision making at the club and he will have played a role in that. He, more than anybody, will be keen to move on to something else when the time comes. However, just for a bit of perspective, he still reported to Mel. Anyone who thinks he had an equal decision making position, or was able to influence what Mel did to any great extent, is probably a bit naive. I'm sure he received many of the assurances and promises we all did. This won't be a positive post, and I'm certainly not standing up for Stephen, he doesn't need me to! It's just good sometimes to take a step back, I don't think everything is always as clear cut as we think. Football clubs are murky places with lots of rumour, with no decisions made by committee. Could he have done more to prevent the mess we're in? For sure, but we will never know the ins and outs. He will go, 100% and that will be the right decision. But ultimately, he isn't the main culprit in all of this imho. New Gold Dream, Steve How Hard? and angieram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I’d get rid. I wouldn’t walk if I was him though, unless his contract has been nulled because of entering administration and he’s on a weekly retainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Would be interested to know why people think he deserves to be "got rid of". P&S It's still debateable as to whether we implemented a compliant policy or not, despite everything. Pretty much an even split of opinion from all people involved in making the verdicts, almost all of those with an accounting background were in favour of it being compliant after all. Yes, we were set to fail P&S massively regardless of the policy used, but that's much more down to the recruitment failing than the policy itself. Administration Mel and the EFL both played a role in this. Mel for deciding to pull the plug after choosing to spend unsustainable amounts of money. The EFL for going on a 3 year long pursuit against the club for the stadium and amortisation policy which resulted in several failed takeovers which would have kept us out of administration. What was Pearce's role in this? Ken Tram, Gritstone Ram and Reggie Greenwood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramifications Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 II don't like to see any person lose their job but bye bye. SaffyRam and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I sincerely hope it doesn't cost us hundreds of thousands to get rid of him. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 23 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Would be interested to know why people think he deserves to be "got rid of". P&S It's still debateable as to whether we implemented a compliant policy or not, despite everything. Pretty much an even split of opinion from all people involved in making the verdicts, almost all of those with an accounting background were in favour of it being compliant after all. Yes, we were set to fail P&S massively regardless of the policy used, but that's much more down to the recruitment failing than the policy itself. Administration Mel and the EFL both played a role in this. Mel for deciding to pull the plug after choosing to spend unsustainable amounts of money. The EFL for going on a 3 year long pursuit against the club for the stadium and amortisation policy which resulted in several failed takeovers which would have kept us out of administration. What was Pearce's role in this? I like the idea of trying to present a few facts before we have him shot. angieram, IslandExile, Ghost of Clough and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffyRam Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Would be interested to know why people think he deserves to be "got rid of". P&S It's still debateable as to whether we implemented a compliant policy or not, despite everything. Pretty much an even split of opinion from all people involved in making the verdicts, almost all of those with an accounting background were in favour of it being compliant after all. Yes, we were set to fail P&S massively regardless of the policy used, but that's much more down to the recruitment failing than the policy itself. Administration Mel and the EFL both played a role in this. Mel for deciding to pull the plug after choosing to spend unsustainable amounts of money. The EFL for going on a 3 year long pursuit against the club for the stadium and amortisation policy which resulted in several failed takeovers which would have kept us out of administration. What was Pearce's role in this? He was a director wasn’t he? Presumably voted through selling the stadium to Morris. That’s pretty unforgivable, I’m afraid. Happy to be corrected if I’ve got that wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: On the ones where I have no opinion one way or the other. I just want to see the results. On the match prediction thing I always chose 'lose'. I’m stunned that you have no opinion as to whether SP should stay or go. I suspect this poll could be a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Would be interested to know why people think he deserves to be "got rid of". P&S It's still debateable as to whether we implemented a compliant policy or not, despite everything. Pretty much an even split of opinion from all people involved in making the verdicts, almost all of those with an accounting background were in favour of it being compliant after all. Yes, we were set to fail P&S massively regardless of the policy used, but that's much more down to the recruitment failing than the policy itself. Administration Mel and the EFL both played a role in this. Mel for deciding to pull the plug after choosing to spend unsustainable amounts of money. The EFL for going on a 3 year long pursuit against the club for the stadium and amortisation policy which resulted in several failed takeovers which would have kept us out of administration. What was Pearce's role in this? Surely, the CEO (and former CFO) in situ during our darkest hour has to take some responsible for the dire situation the club has found itself in. As you say, none of us really know what his role was in the debacle but, it’s difficult to side step significant criticism when holding such a senior position. RadioactiveWaste, Kathcairns and DarkFruitsRam7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Think he’s been harshly targeted without knowing the full facts… he’s the last remaining part of the previous regime so had born the full brunt of anger that should really have been aimed towards Mel. He’s got off very lightly all things considered because he ran away. That said, with a takeover should come a total clear out of the previous regime, the CEO probably the biggest casualty. Pearce will have to go. But why should he quit? I certainly wouldn’t quit when I can get paid to do my job! And, FWIW, I think we still need him right now - from what I hear the administrators are doing nothing for their money in terms of running the club. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Would be interested to know why people think he deserves to be "got rid of". P&S It's still debateable as to whether we implemented a compliant policy or not, despite everything. Pretty much an even split of opinion from all people involved in making the verdicts, almost all of those with an accounting background were in favour of it being compliant after all. Yes, we were set to fail P&S massively regardless of the policy used, but that's much more down to the recruitment failing than the policy itself. Administration Mel and the EFL both played a role in this. Mel for deciding to pull the plug after choosing to spend unsustainable amounts of money. The EFL for going on a 3 year long pursuit against the club for the stadium and amortisation policy which resulted in several failed takeovers which would have kept us out of administration. What was Pearce's role in this? He’s been second-in-command during what’s probably been the darkest period in our club’s history. He also claimed publicly not too long ago that the club was in reasonable financial health, which has turned out to be anything but the case. I won’t say anything libellous, but I’ll leave you to your own conclusion as to whether he was being honest in his assessment or not. Get rid, without even a second thought. RadioactiveWaste, Kathcairns, RoyMac5 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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