San Fran Van Rams Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 11 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: I certainly hope we don’t sell any more. But as a tax payer I can see why they might say we should conduct a fire sale and go down HMRC will get more money from Derby finding a buyer than from selling whatever playing squad we have left. Tamworthram, Red Ram, kevinhectoring and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: I really don't know where you're coming from Kevin. The government clearly said in the House of Commons that the HMRC debt is not the issue here. The sports minister said it at the end of the debate last week. The only thing stopping this club surviving is the vexatious ambulance chasing Gibson and his chum Parry. Yeah I agree the main problem is the 2 claims. It’s disappointing that the EFl won’t admit this I think we’ve done a deal with HMRC. What I’m saying is, you might think that HMRC might have said to q, “sure we’ll do a deal but you need to fulfil your side of the bargain and realise as many assets as you can. So sell Jason Knight”. I guess q would reply: “it’s counterproductive because if we sell the family jewels, buyers pay less so you are no better off Edited January 23, 2022 by angieram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Yeah I agree the main problem is the 2 claims. It’s disappointing that the EFl won’t admit this I think we’ve done a deal with HMRC. What I’m saying is, you might think that HMRC might have said to q, “sure we’ll do a deal but you need to fulfil your side of the bargain and realise as many assets as you can. So sell Jason Knight”. I guess q would reply: “it’s counterproductive because if we sell the family jewels, buyers pay less so you are no better off I don't think the HMRC are aware of the qualities of Jason Knight. HMRC (the Government) have said its not a problem. However you try to spin it, its The EFL trying to squeeze Gibson in as a football creditor that is stopping DCFC being allowed to survive. Indyram, Red Ram, S8TY and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 16 hours ago, San Fran Van Rams said: HMRC will get more money from Derby finding a buyer than from selling whatever playing squad we have left. HMRC would also get more money if none of it goes to spurious claims from other clubs. San Fran Van Rams and PistoldPete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 On 20/01/2022 at 23:45, Rev said: What court? They literally can't pursue this through the court, only through a tribunal, which is their entire case. We live in a litigation society. Any individual, business or corporation can pursue a civil case through the courts if they are prepared to throw enough money at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Fran Van Rams Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, europia said: We live in a litigation society. Any individual, business or corporation can pursue a civil case through the courts if they are prepared to throw enough money at it. I didn't think they could given DCFC are in admin? Goes against insolvency law unless a court deems it permissable? RamuelLJackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, europia said: We live in a litigation society. Any individual, business or corporation can pursue a civil case through the courts if they are prepared to throw enough money at it. Isn't there something in the EFL rules (yeah, I know) against doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 hours ago, San Fran Van Rams said: I didn't think they could given DCFC are in admin? Goes against insolvency law unless a court deems it permissable? My thinking was, that if they were adamant they had a case, they would pursue it once Derby are out of admin.....and that it would probably be thrown out of court without much fanfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) I'd happily sell all of our players as long as we stay as a club just sell make the the money and rebuild its hard to say but Derby County is a million times bigger then any of our players I would much prefer to be league 1 then nothing use your brains and look at the situation! Real fans good would agree with anything to keep the club going also if we are being played of cheating how's about we do qpr for when they cheated us out of Wembley when they got done for ffp? Whe need to play every card going Edited January 25, 2022 by Dcfcsr92 Extra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dcfcsr92 said: I'd happily sell all of our players as long as we stay as a club just sell make the the money and rebuild its hard to say but Derby County is a million times bigger then any of our players I would much prefer to be league 1 then nothing use your brains and look at the situation! Real fans good would agree with anything to keep the club going also if we are being played of cheating how's about we do qpr for when they cheated us out of Wembley when they got done for ffp? Whe need to play every card going If boro are owned 45m in compo we are worth 100m from qpr this has gone on way too far we can not go bust its baalocks let's turn everything on them and sue them if we won that game we would of been no way near this point, I know Morris has done us in but seriously if boro have a claim we definitely have a claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 Our good friends in Bristol, part of the friendly football family of the efl.. The first thinking we have any sort of control about how administrators may run our club or get a buyer.. The second, our good friend Mr P thinking that us as fans that might lose our club... Might have the audacity to consider ourselves victims rather than villains (!) These clowns (and others) do real football fans a disservice. We are as a fanbase embarrassed that our old owner didn't pay the debts... However we aren't going to accept going out of business as either a price we have to pay to put the fear in other clubs' chairmen and we aren't going to start grovelling and feeling remorse for our old chairman who ran the club as he did when we are ultimately the club bottom of the league, never got promoted, with a team cobbled together with a real chance of going out of business. Just makes me unbelievably angry. CornwallRam, Crewton, BramcoteRam84 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 minute ago, alexxxxx said: ...Just makes me unbelievably angry. Mate that's what they hope for. There's nothing that might be seen as understanding or helpful, just vengeance for a situation we had no control over. Don't let them bother you. #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Our good friends in Bristol, part of the friendly football family of the efl.. The first thinking we have any sort of control about how administrators may run our club or get a buyer.. The second, our good friend Mr P thinking that us as fans that might lose our club... Might have the audacity to consider ourselves victims rather than villains (!) These clowns (and others) do real football fans a disservice. We are as a fanbase embarrassed that our old owner didn't pay the debts... However we aren't going to accept going out of business as either a price we have to pay to put the fear in other clubs' chairmen and we aren't going to start grovelling and feeling remorse for our old chairman who ran the club as he did when we are ultimately the club bottom of the league, never got promoted, with a team cobbled together with a real chance of going out of business. Just makes me unbelievably angry. Just imagine how angry they'll be when a deal is done and smile. I've never understood all this football family malarkey any rode, I hate everyone. Mucker1884, i-Ram and Rev 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 27, 2022 Author Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, alexxxxx said: our good friend Mr P thinking I think he thinks too much. Not even a nanosecond has a thought run through my head to go over and see what he's been writing. Wouldn't surprise me if he's a relative of Steve Gibson, similar genes and an absolute waste of internet space. 1967Ram and Dean (hick) Saunders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 1 hour ago, alexxxxx said: Our good friends in Bristol, part of the friendly football family of the efl.. The first thinking we have any sort of control about how administrators may run our club or get a buyer.. The second, our good friend Mr P thinking that us as fans that might lose our club... Might have the audacity to consider ourselves victims rather than villains (!) These clowns (and others) do real football fans a disservice. We are as a fanbase embarrassed that our old owner didn't pay the debts... However we aren't going to accept going out of business as either a price we have to pay to put the fear in other clubs' chairmen and we aren't going to start grovelling and feeling remorse for our old chairman who ran the club as he did when we are ultimately the club bottom of the league, never got promoted, with a team cobbled together with a real chance of going out of business. Just makes me unbelievably angry. Don't let them worry you. Most of them were clearly weaned of the teat at the age of 40 and still live in mummies loft. They must be on page 500 by now. Have they re-titled the thread " Heights of sadness "yet ? What a load of sad Bamfords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 3 hours ago, alexxxxx said: Our good friends in Bristol, part of the friendly football family of the efl.. The first thinking we have any sort of control about how administrators may run our club or get a buyer.. The second, our good friend Mr P thinking that us as fans that might lose our club... Might have the audacity to consider ourselves victims rather than villains (!) These clowns (and others) do real football fans a disservice. We are as a fanbase embarrassed that our old owner didn't pay the debts... However we aren't going to accept going out of business as either a price we have to pay to put the fear in other clubs' chairmen and we aren't going to start grovelling and feeling remorse for our old chairman who ran the club as he did when we are ultimately the club bottom of the league, never got promoted, with a team cobbled together with a real chance of going out of business. Just makes me unbelievably angry. "some of them think their amortisation method was correct". No, some think there is no correct method. And some include the forensic accountant on the IDC panel, who I guess is not a DCFC fan, entitled or otherwise. The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glyn1957 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Mr P is the biggest single clown on OTIB which is good going seeing as they have so many of then ,in the clown world he would be Oleg Popov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 15 hours ago, alexxxxx said: Our good friends in Bristol, part of the friendly football family of the efl.. The first thinking we have any sort of control about how administrators may run our club or get a buyer.. The second, our good friend Mr P thinking that us as fans that might lose our club... Might have the audacity to consider ourselves victims rather than villains (!) These clowns (and others) do real football fans a disservice. We are as a fanbase embarrassed that our old owner didn't pay the debts... However we aren't going to accept going out of business as either a price we have to pay to put the fear in other clubs' chairmen and we aren't going to start grovelling and feeling remorse for our old chairman who ran the club as he did when we are ultimately the club bottom of the league, never got promoted, with a team cobbled together with a real chance of going out of business. Just makes me unbelievably angry. That Mr P guy talks as much sense as Gibson. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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strawhillram Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, David said: I wonder what that means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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