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  1. https://www.footballinsider247.com/sunderland-could-be-hit-by-Derby-country-ruling-maguire/ This is the problem in a nutshell. This is why the EFL feel the need to enforce the rules. Not because they're out to get us....
  2. I've met a few Football hooligans in my time. Delta males who can only hunt in packs. Without exception.
  3. Yep this is why I no longer go away B4. I know it's a minority who cause issues but I'd rather sit with the home fans if it was possible to do so. Used to go away with my Dad sometimes but he's in his 80s and can't stand for 90 minutes. People just used to stand up in front of him so he couldn't see anything. I'd like to see the away end divided up into half sitting half standing so that everyone's preferences/needs can be accommodated.
  4. Let's see a poll then. Because I honestly doubt most of us are that blinkered.
  5. Not really just vehemently defended Nigel Clough's record at Derby. Quite rightly, especially given his personal history with the Clough family. Given that Mel Morris spent getting on for £50 million making Clough's side weaker it's an argument that has aged rather well. Have pre-ordered...
  6. So let's get this straight. Kieran Maquire, who's job (as shown above) is specifically to analyse football finances, noticed that our amortisation policy was an outlier in comparison with the rest of the league and pointed this out, which makes him partly to blame for Derby's financial crisis. Apparently he should have just kept quiet, not done his job properly and crossed his fingers that no one else noticed? Because his primary concern should obviously have been to try and ensure that Derby got away with it? Not that there was anything wrong with Derby's amortisation policy of course but he shouldn't have mentioned it anyway, just in case the EFL thought there was. I've listened to all of his (absolutely excellent, by the way) Price of Football podcasts where they've covered Derby. He's not anti Derby or even anti Mel Morris, he simply points out that the underlying cause of Derby's financial crisis is the tripling of the wage bill over a 3 to 4 year period between 2014 and 2018. It's indisputable that that's the case. He quite rightly called out Morris's failure to take adequate responsibility for the crisis. So did Wayne Rooney - presumably he's a 'snitch' too?🙄 Sorry but this playground level stuff...
  7. Yes agree a lot of that was unfortunate but all teams have injuries. What I really don't get is why you apparently (in one of your earlier posts) think Kieran Maguire is somehow partly blame though? Surely that's just shooting the messenger?
  8. Mel tripled the wage bill between 2014 and 2018 to the point where the wage bill was 150% of turnover. There was only one way that story was ever going to end and we're living through it right now. The responsibility for the club's predicament is his and his alone. It's self evident. Blaming the EFL is like blaming the speed camera when you get a speeding fine. It's a well known phenomenon known as 'my side bias'. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0963721413480174 https://digest.bps.org.uk/2018/10/09/my-side-bias-makes-it-difficult-for-us-to-see-the-logic-in-arguments-we-disagree-with/ Accusing other forum members of not being real fans because they don't agree with you is out of order. Then again, my user name is Red Ram so maybe I'm a Forest fan?
  9. Then why did HMRC file a winding up order in January 2020, before COVID had even got started?
  10. Why did the thread title change then? Is it no longer 50-50 whether or not Derby survives? Are we trying to convince ourselves the club is face less of an existential threat than it actually is?
  11. Do you have a link to the source of this information please GoC. Just asking as it's obviously potentially significant.
  12. Maybe - but Morris could have just agreed to the 9 point deduction though which would still have been better than where we are now.
  13. If we really did have a buyer 'lined up', why would they want the club to go into administration before completing? It means taking over a League One club due to the points deduction, which in turn means a loss of revenue of around £15 million per year. It took Forest 3 years to get back up and they weren't under an embargo. So even if some of the debt is written off by Administration, it will almost certainly be more than offset by the loss of revenue won't it? Particularly as most of the analysis we've seen (Kieran Maquire/The Athletic etc) suggests that the majority of the debt will have to be paid off in full anyway because it's either secured, owed to HMRC or is 'football debt'. Would love to be convinced otherwise but just don't see how it adds up?
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