RYRAM Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: If the league table does not lie then surely it is Huddersfield that deserve to go up as they finished ahead of Forest? Let's not have play offs and have dead rubber games for weeks on end yay!! jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 8 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Can some derby fans let some forest coaches going to wembly oh dear we got flat tyres sorry fans your not going now. Forest players run out to empty forest end. Would be funny to see for sure Although might be an idea to send the teams coach driver a Tom Tom sat nav in the post as he might not be able to find Wembley stadium as its been a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olton Ram Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, RYRAM said: Kills me to say it but they deserve to go up. 24Charlie, jono, IslandExile and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, RYRAM said: Let's not have play offs and have dead rubber games for weeks on end yay!! I always think that, when the team who finished third gets promoted, they "deserve" it more than any of the other teams. That's what GSR was getting at, not that the playoff system was wrong. Sweetness34 and G STAR RAM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 20 minutes ago, RYRAM said: Let's not have play offs and have dead rubber games for weeks on end yay!! Not sure where I said anything about the play offs? Just saying if the league table doesn't lie then Huddersfield deserve to go up? Crewton and strawhillram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kevinhectoring Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Crewton said: I always think that, when the team who finished third gets promoted, they "deserve" it more than any of the other teams. That's what GSR was getting at, not that the playoff system was wrong. Quite like the formats where the top team in the group going into the play offs gets some sort of advantage in the play offs Crewton and Patrick Rams 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, KBB said: 100% I have never lived in Derby or Nottingham and don't know any forest fans at all. I don't have all the "banter" on a daily basis or the dislike thst many of our fan base have. They do deserve their day at Wembley. They have had a superb season. One to be proud of. Have probably the best young player in the league, some very good loan signings and a manager who I think will go to the top-level. Does it pain me to say that? No, because I think even the most one eyed of us have to reluctantly say its true. The league table does not lie. Forest are on the cusp of the "dream" we chased in the wrong way and are now paying the price for. Will they do it? I think they might. More like cheated way there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Quite like the formats where the top team in the group going into the play offs gets some sort of advantage in the play offs Why? The rules are clear, finish top 2 you're up. Finish below that and it's all to play for! jono, David Graham Brown and jimtastic56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Why? The rules are clear, finish top 2 you're up. Finish below that and it's all to play for! Rules can be changed... I'd quite like to see something like 6th plays 5th, winner of that plays 4th, and the winner of that plays 3rd at Wembley. Basically the further down the table you finish, the more games you need to win to go up. The only downside would be the 3rd place team potentially having a big gap between finishing the league and playing the final game, which doesn't always help. Patrick Rams, RadioactiveWaste, GB SPORTS and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Just now, duncanjwitham said: Rules can be changed... I'd quite like to see something like 6th plays 5th, winner of that plays 4th, and the winner of that plays 3rd at Wembley. Basically the further down the table you finish, the more games you need to win to go up. The only downside would be the 3rd place team potentially having a big gap between finishing the league and playing the final game, which doesn't always help. One off semi finals would make more sense to me, rather than the current two legs, 3rd & 4th place get home advantage. I'm with @RoyMac5 anyway, we've all known the rules for years, only the top 2 can legitimately claim that they "deserve" to go up. jimtastic56, RadioactiveWaste and RoyMac5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Rules can be changed... I'd quite like to see something like 6th plays 5th, winner of that plays 4th, and the winner of that plays 3rd at Wembley. Basically the further down the table you finish, the more games you need to win to go up. The only downside would be the 3rd place team potentially having a big gap between finishing the league and playing the final game, which doesn't always help. Why? It's good the way it is and gives a chance to all - if you want to bias it towards third spot just get rid of the play-offs. jimtastic56 and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 You could borrow the IPL system (NBA "play in" uses this as well) 3rd play 4th - winner goes to final. 5th play 6th - winner plays loser of 3rd v 4th game Winner 5/6 Vs loser of 3/4 - the winner goes to the final. Seems to work quite well, 3rd and 4th get a second chance at the final, 5th or 6th have to win 2 games to get there. Ultimately though, until the EFL introduce a rule that says teams in rushcliffe borough who play in red are ineligible to take part in the final, the play offs will always be in danger of becoming a farce. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Why? It's good the way it is and gives a chance to all - if you want to bias it towards third spot just get rid of the play-offs. The playoffs obviously serve a good purpose, in keeping the league interesting for as long as possible, so I don't think anyone really wants to get rid of them. And "giving a chance to all" is literally the opposite to making 24 teams compete against each other repeatedly to figure out who the best is. It just feels to me like there should be some kind of reward for a team in 3rd, that could easily finish 20+ points ahead of the team in 6th. And making them play the team that just snuck into 6th on the last day and has all the momentum ain't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 11 hours ago, i-Ram said: Those still wanting to give Quantuma a kicking should take note that Morris left one hell of a mess for them to resolve. 8/9 months to resolve would be pretty quick too for a football club administration to be concluded. For me the only real reason to give Q a kicking is that they were lauded as "football club insolvency specialists" when they were appointed, so to my mind they should have been far more aware of the mess and the challenges ahead quite early in the process - rather than claiming in October that we'd be out of admin by Christmas, and then continually communicating overly optimistic messages (remember "you will be pleasantly surprised at how quickly things will progress now"?) about conclusion. Their credibility in the industry must be shot Patrick Rams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, duncanjwitham said: The playoffs obviously serve a good purpose, in keeping the league interesting for as long as possible, so I don't think anyone really wants to get rid of them. And "giving a chance to all" is literally the opposite to making 24 teams compete against each other repeatedly to figure out who the best is. It just feels to me like there should be some kind of reward for a team in 3rd, that could easily finish 20+ points ahead of the team in 6th. And making them play the team that just snuck into 6th on the last day and has all the momentum ain't it. I understand this, but on the flip side there is this example. That team who just finished 6th maybe had nothing to play for earlier in the season and the excitement of an excellent run of form gives them hope that they can turn their season from one of mediocrity to the best day in their history. Funny old game, ain't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 hours ago, KBB said: 100% I have never lived in Derby or Nottingham and don't know any forest fans at all. I don't have all the "banter" on a daily basis or the dislike thst many of our fan base have. They do deserve their day at Wembley. They have had a superb season. One to be proud of. Have probably the best young player in the league, some very good loan signings and a manager who I think will go to the top-level. Does it pain me to say that? No, because I think even the most one eyed of us have to reluctantly say its true. The league table does not lie. Forest are on the cusp of the "dream" we chased in the wrong way and are now paying the price for. Will they do it? I think they might. I live amongst them, there has been a big increase in people walking around wearing their Labatts shirts dug out from the back of the cupboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: ...It just feels to me like there should be some kind of reward for a team in 3rd, that could easily finish 20+ points ahead of the team in 6th. And making them play the team that just snuck into 6th on the last day and has all the momentum ain't it. It's a tough old world. If they'd finished 2nd they'd be up. #COYR ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Ah errm, isn't this a general Football chat rather than a Derby County in Administration chat? angieram, cosmic, NellyRam and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Ah errm, isn't this a general Football chat rather than a Derby County in Administration chat? Did you want the '10 minute chat' or the longer version? ? ? David Graham Brown, Indy, IslandExile and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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