Ram-Alf Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: The club has virtually no assets. It has the name and the golden share and some players. Most of those player will, as things stand, be leaving in the summer, stripping the club of most of the assets it has left. The club is all but worthless. I believe there is a valuable diary in the safe written by Wayne Rooney called...My thoughts on the officials in the Championship...it could be a block buster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram a lamb a ding dong Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Enough is enough. Q you have failed miserably MM you have let us down Pull the plug and start again. The slow lingering death is simply too much to take Derby4Me and Alan Ramage 4 EVA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: I stand by my statement that Q and MM are so incompetent that we will get liquidated Not sure anyone asked or was in any doubt.... They do say misery loves company though. Comrade 86, nogbad van 50 and i-Ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Well they tell us buy tickets many of us just want renew out season tickets extra income for the club. RAM1966 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Bradley Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 They need to get this sorted before end season I think once sorted players will get a lift and definitely avoid league 1 Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 This has the feel of a Mike Ashley purchase at the eleventh hour. The bid is likely to be just enough to pay creditors enough to avoid a 15 point deduction next season whilst slashing Mel's £20m wish. All about timing. NOT ITK Derby4Me, Ted McMinn Football Genius, Carnero and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammingStone66 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 7 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: This has the feel of a Mike Ashley purchase at the eleventh hour. The bid is likely to be just enough to pay creditors enough to avoid a 15 point deduction next season whilst slashing Mel's £20m wish. All about timing. NOT ITK I agree, though I'm not sure on the paying just enough to avoid the penalty. Having worked around the guy at the time he bought Newcastle and seeing how ruthless he was back then. I wouldn't be surprised if he took the deduction to save money and get the club for as little as possible. From what I saw, Mike likes to know he has won, and he likes you to know he has won too. I hope I'm wrong as any owner willing to take deduction and run us to near extinction just to save some cash is not a person I'd want running the club.....but I guess we can't be choosy and the "fan" that bought the club last time hasn't done us much good in the long run either lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 29 minutes ago, RammingStone66 said: I agree, though I'm not sure on the paying just enough to avoid the penalty. Having worked around the guy at the time he bought Newcastle and seeing how ruthless he was back then. I wouldn't be surprised if he took the deduction to save money and get the club for as little as possible. From what I saw, Mike likes to know he has won, and he likes you to know he has won too. I hope I'm wrong as any owner willing to take deduction and run us to near extinction just to save some cash is not a person I'd want running the club.....but I guess we can't be choosy and the "fan" that bought the club last time hasn't done us much good in the long run either lol He'll have won if he gets Mel and/or the admins to take a reduced amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Ramage 4 EVA Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Ram a lamb a ding dong said: Enough is enough. Q you have failed miserably MM you have let us down Pull the plug and start again. The slow lingering death is simply too much to take Exactly how I feel. I`ve had enough now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Simon Bradley said: They need to get this sorted before end season I think once sorted players will get a lift and definitely avoid league 1 I’m not so sure. Obviously our away form is shocking but, I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen such togetherness and backs against the wall fighting spirit. If it was sorted before the end of the season the sense of relief could actually be detrimental to that spirit. Obviously I want it sorting as soon as possible but I fear that it wouldn’t really give the players that much of a lift given our threadbare squad is already giving as much it can. It could be argued I guess, that if we were able to tie some players down with actual contracts for next season then they may be more motivated to try harder but, I’m not sure I’ve seen much evidence of any of them coasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I’ve asked this before but does anyone know how the sale of season tickets will be done? any new buyer would immediately draw circa £5m of income in April imo even for L1 such would be the relief of survival and a new start. We need to get to a point where the business can safely sell season tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem Indyram, Carnero, CBRammette and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 When people meet with Q no one asks the question “is the price of the club based upon us staying in the Championship?” I think the answer to that may make it more clear why there is not much movement. I am not sure how much difference in price it would be but I know it would make a big difference for a Premier League club. Ramifications and JoetheRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 20 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: DET article states that we won't receive a penny of any transfer fee it all will go straight back to cover outstanding payments on his original transfer fee which we haven't settled yet this is just to wipe the original slate clean with Lech Poznan and the figure we will actually receive which will go straight back to Lech Poznan is £1 million. The article does mention Nixons name several times so read into that what you will You are right to be sceptical of Nixon, and his contribution here was garbled as always. But the gist of it is consistent with previous reports.. there was a big instalment due earlier this year on Jozwiak. That would leave around £5.5 million total of all transfer fees outstanding.. the £8.3 m offiically reported in the statement of affairs in November less transfer instalments paid since then , principally on Jozwiak and Bielik. The same wonky report in the Daily Telegraph that first quoted the £8m outstanding amount on Bielik also said there was a £1.4 m instalment due in October, and that was deferred by arsenal until January. Now paid I believe. So £5.5 million would be my estimate of total fees now outstanding. Most of that for Bielik, the rest for Jozwiak. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 17 minutes ago, Eatonram said: Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem Exactly. £30 m of revenue before COVID. Really offering £30 m in total for the club including the stadium is taking the pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gritstone Ram said: When people meet with Q no one asks the question “is the price of the club based upon us staying in the Championship?” I think the answer to that may make it more clear why there is not much movement. I am not sure how much difference in price it would be but I know it would make a big difference for a Premier League club. The price of the club is based on the amount of debt owed - the value of the club is based on which division we're in next season - they're two completely different numbers and that's why it's so hard to find a willing buyer.... angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuskus Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/17930721/derby-county-kamil-jozwiak-wayne-rooney/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1647125328 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 I know its the Sun and I know our positions are totally different but Chelsea apparently after 2 days have a £110m lifeline to stop them going out of business due to MPs renegotiating their special licence. 2 days. For a club that was essentially Millwall with some celeb fans. Not an old historic club who were founding members of the league but a club allowed to thrive based on extremely dodgy money. 2 days. What do our MPs have to say about that? Article says "But MPs yesterday revealed that two days of negotiations with club chiefs had resulted in a revised licence which will now allow the Blues to access previously FROZEN television and prize money. Chelsea are permitted to use all the potential £35m in TV income from the Prem and Uefa until the end of the season PLUS all prize money they are due from domestic and European competitions. They are set to pocket £39m from the Prem if they stay in third place — and up to £36m if they retain their Champions League crown." well isnt that nice David Graham Brown, angieram, cosmic and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 31 minutes ago, Eatonram said: Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem How dare you post on here with your common sense and optimism. You will be banned!! David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RipleyRich Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 9 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Well they tell us buy tickets many of us just want renew out season tickets extra income for the club. Season Ticket money is released over time. If the Club sold 20,000 season tickets tomorrow, the money is not available immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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