Eatonram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 If the admins tale a loan, I believe it will be from the likely purchaser, and IF it is then it will make no difference in the overall scheme of things....was this not indicated in the Q statement yesterday? Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 Hold on, Q want to take out a loan to get players signed up and ST rolled out etc. Rooney will be signing them up one assumes? If we get taken over we’ll need to get players signed up too, these players will be the same players Rooney will be looking at no doubt as we’re on a strict budget. The only difference will be that the incoming buyer will have a possible loan interest fee to pay. The outlay will be the same if they own it now or Q borrow and Rooney works his magic. We don’t have time to mess about, we need players and ST’s sold asap. Temp funding is vital to secure our spot in the league this season, forget about who’s applying for it. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, alram said: i read that Q want to take out another loan to buy players? is that true? are they taking the mickey? Q have reduced us to a ramshackle club jimtastic56 and alram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, Sparkle said: So why can’t they do that now ? Do what now? As it stands, the EFL will enforce their insolvency policy (and we pay football creditors), or we'll be liquidated (and the EFL pool account will pay them). So either way the clubs get their money. It's only if the EFL start changing rules that clubs might get interested. Likewise, Bolton, Wigan and any other clubs in admin recently might have complaints to make. 15 minutes ago, Sparkle said: I didn’t imagine other clubs wouldn’t get their money but why do other creditors have to be paid by the method the EFL have said, why can’t it be over five years or ten years so long as they get it? If we're talking about Mike Ashley £28m type bids, then no creditor outside of MSD, Quantuma and some of the football creditors are getting anything anyway, so the length of time is moot. atherstoneram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EraniosSocks Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 23 minutes ago, roboto said: Solidarity with Quantuma and their 9 month strike as administrators of Derby County? Nah, I’d lob food items at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Eatonram said: If the admins tale a loan, I believe it will be from the likely purchaser, and IF it is then it will make no difference in the overall scheme of things....was this not indicated in the Q statement yesterday? Would be some story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 That latest statement from the administrators is really worrying, though credit where credits due, at least they’ve finally come out and told us how it is. If there’s no one offering enough money to even keep us in the League right now, I fail to see how that’s going to change as we end up more and more in debt. My fears of liquidation are growing by the day, you have to question now whether the clubs in too much of a mess to be worth saving. I certainly think there’s yet another season of pain and probably a second successive relegation ahead of us, at best. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: Do what now? As it stands, the EFL will enforce their insolvency policy (and we pay football creditors), or we'll be liquidated (and the EFL pool account will pay them). So either way the clubs get their money. It's only if the EFL start changing rules that clubs might get interested. Likewise, Bolton, Wigan and any other clubs in admin recently might have complaints to make. If we're talking about Mike Ashley £28m type bids, then no creditor outside of MSD, Quantuma and some of the football creditors are getting anything anyway, so the length of time is moot. Exactly. This idea of dichotomy is very good for trying to drive a hard bargain but becomes dreadful when you actually negotiate. It is also a total nonsense that doesn't pass mustard for a second once you think about it. Life is never go to bed or go for a run; cheese on toast or lobster thermadore; Chariots of Fire or Minions. It involves change and movement. When it comes down to it, Creditors will not want the dichotomy - zero pounds or surrender. But, they will want a good deal. You can then offer new points to the bargain to sweeten it. All sides will want this - literally everyone. At the moment, the admins want what they want (on behalf of Creditors). But if no one is offering, their bargaining position is zero. So movement will need to happen to prevent the dichotomy mentioned above. At that point, and ONLY at that point, new ideas will come to the fore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Q have reduced us to a ramshackle club So we bringing Shackell out of retirement? kevinhectoring, Asanovic70, Oldben and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, EraniosSocks said: Nah, I’d lob food items at them EraniosSocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I’m putting it out there, I’m not buying a season ticket while the club is in this state. I can’t afford to kiss goodbye to my money, fans would be very low down on the list when money is given out. Asking me, who has paid £££ in the past, to risk more money when they talk about millions as if they’re tenners, is not going happen. They’ve given me zero consideration up to now so I’m not considering my ticket now. The Scarlet Pimpernel and alram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK47 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 It's the first time I've commented in a while but I can't lie, this whole situation is beyond a joke. I can imagine how you lot feel about it but to me football is derby and derby is football. I don't care for England, I don't care for any other team and right now there's absolutely nothing positive going on. Every noon and night I'm checking for the hopeful "Take over complete" - because the prospect of playing forest green away is bad enough, but losing Rooney (which will happen if this carries on) will be the biggest loss yet. That man and his pulling power will be the difference in us bouncing back as players will want to play for him. Anyone interested in buying the club will know this, and if we are to get out the doo doo, I fell this has to be sorted and finalised this week or else we're screwed. In the 30+ years I've been a Derby Fan, this is by far the worst period I've ever experienced. It's like all the people involved in ruining what Derby County is and a lack of amends being made from people who are "interested in buying us" have zero understanding of what this club means to the fans. Its disgusting tbh. From the EFL, Gibson, Mel Morris, Admin, CK, and the people diddle daddling around the idea of if we're a worthy enough assett to take on, there's no one who cares as much as us and I think we deserve better. Obviously. I pray this gets sorted this week ? Elwood P Dowd, alram, Tomchope and 9 others 5 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Quantmel are quite literally killing our club. We need them out I feel in order to get a deal agreed. The clubs debts are only increasing by the day making it harder and harder for creditors to be paid. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Ram1988 said: Quantmel are quite literally killing our club. We need them out I feel in order to get a deal agreed. The clubs debts are only increasing by the day making it harder and harder for creditors to be paid. Maybe one more protest is needed...fans deserve a positive resolution. jimtastic56 and Ram1988 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 59 minutes ago, CBX1985 said: This idea of dichotomy is very good for trying to drive a hard bargain but becomes dreadful when you actually negotiate. It is also a total nonsense that doesn't pass mustard for a second once you think about it. I bet that stings... Perhaps the idiom you're searching for is pass muster? Will Hughes Hair, ck- and GboroRam 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I’m putting it out there, I’m not buying a season ticket while the club is in this state. I can’t afford to kiss goodbye to my money, fans would be very low down on the list when money is given out. Asking me, who has paid £££ in the past, to risk more money when they talk about millions as if they’re tenners, is not going happen. They’ve given me zero consideration up to now so I’m not considering my ticket now. If you buy a season ticket use your credit card to pay. If club goes belly up you get your money from whoever issued your credit card. Not a guess a fact. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I’m putting it out there, I’m not buying a season ticket while the club is in this state. I can’t afford to kiss goodbye to my money, fans would be very low down on the list when money is given out. Asking me, who has paid £££ in the past, to risk more money when they talk about millions as if they’re tenners, is not going happen. They’ve given me zero consideration up to now so I’m not considering my ticket now. If the EFL conclude Q have funds to run us and therefore issue season tickets I will buy. I suppose I’d hedge my bets if they let you buy 1/2 season at the start .. but I want to be at pride park supporting the rams asap jimtastic56 and Carnero 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 hours ago, JPRamFan said: This. If we can't get a new owner now, can you seriously see us securing one during the season. If Q are taking out a loan circa 3-5 million for new players, season tickets and June's Wages, it's only going to add more debt to an already dire situation. Q need to set a new deadline for a new owner, because I can't bare to see this farce continue into next season. What would setting another deadline actually achieve? jono, jimtastic56, Caerphilly Ram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, jono said: If the EFL conclude Q have funds to run us and therefore issue season tickets I will buy. I suppose I’d hedge my bets if they let you buy 1/2 season at the start .. but I want to be at pride park supporting the rams asap I’ll buy match by match Derby4Me, Sparkle and Ram a lamb a ding dong 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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