kevinhectoring Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: Can anyone explain Ashley’s claim against quantuma. Apparently he was going to be named PB in Jan . But wasn’t. No one was, because all bids were conditional on the Boro claim that was sorted in February. he didn’t then come in with a final bid until early May and then that as too low . His next bid was during CK’s exclusivity period. He has not made a further bid but is said to be still interested in buying us. If so , I suggest he needs to get a move on . but what has he lost? Legal fees? Poor soul but I think he can afford it. Aren’t rams fans rather more concerned about the possibility of losing their club and don’t give a stuff about Ashley’s legal fees? I’d think he’s either angry with them because he feel ill-treated in the process (poor lamb) and wants to give them another headache or he thinks the suit can help him get the club Quite possibly both. If he puts a bid in I think it will give more to creditors and less to Q, when compared with other bids. quandary starts with a q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, Curtains said: MM owes MSD doesn’t he. As I understand it Derby County FC owe MSD ….. but Mel has given PPS as security for that debt. So if DCFC fail - I.e are liquidated or only pay x pence in the pound, MSD then go after Mel for the security he offered @Ghost of Clough is that right ? Phuket Ram and RipleyRich 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, admira said: I had a terrible dream last night that we'd been in a worldwide pandemic, Russia was starting WWIII, fuel and energy prices had doubled, inflation and food prices had gone through the roof, NHS waiting times had hit 13 hours, England suffered their heaviest home defat for over 90 years, train drivers were going on strike, human rights laws were going to be scrapped, the economy was heading for recession, social housing was in a right state, we had a lying deceitful narcissistic scumbag for Prime minister and worst of all, Derby County were at risk of going under. I was glad to wake up I tell you! admira 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, CBRammette said: You forgot Neighbours has finished Not until August lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, CBRammette said: You forgot Neighbours has finished Neighbours finishing hardly counteracts all the bad things that @admira lists out in his dream but it does prove good things do happen ?? Edited June 17, 2022 by Elwood P Dowd Ramarena, Miggins, CBRammette and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, jono said: As I understand it Derby County FC owe MSD ….. but Mel has given PPS as security for that debt. So if DCFC fail - I.e are liquidated or only pay x pence in the pound, MSD then go after Mel for the security he offered @Ghost of Clough is that right ? There's also an added complication that it has been stated that Mel also has given a personal guarantee secured against his personal properties jono, jimtastic56 and RipleyRich 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: This is so tragic. For the first time I really feel we as a club are almost dead. The collective powers that be needed to be smart, fast and efficient not only to agree what was needed to get us out of administration but also to retain enough value and potential in the club to make us attractive for management and players to agree to wait and re-sign. Let's not forget it was us fans who created such an environment and atmosphere around the place that players potentially it seems were prepared to drop into league 1 with us. I think the incompetence of the EFL and The administrators have probably done for us. If we didn’t have the likes of Ashley, Appleby and Morgan looking to buy us I might agree with you but those three are trying to buy us and any other EFL club would probably be delighted with that situation RoyMac5, Carnero, Premier ram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Anyone doubting if MA was to be named preferred bidder needs to listen to that talksport interview before Christmas, the admin said the guy who was to be announced was very wealthy and very experienced in football couldn’t of pointed anymore at Ashley then it all went dead BramcoteRam84, RoyMac5 and Derby4Me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Where do we think May's wages came from, a 'gift' or another MSD loan. Q have said mothing and who'd believe Nixon, right?! ? What on earth is "mothing"? is it a sexual act between 2 consenting people under a lamppost at night? Mostyn6, RoyMac5, Will Hughes Hair and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, admira said: I had a terrible dream last night that we'd been in a worldwide pandemic, Russia was starting WWIII, fuel and energy prices had doubled, inflation and food prices had gone through the roof, NHS waiting times had hit 13 hours, England suffered their heaviest home defat for over 90 years, train drivers were going on strike, human rights laws were going to be scrapped, the economy was heading for recession, social housing was in a right state, we had a lying deceitful narcissistic scumbag for Prime minister and worst of all, Derby County were at risk of going under. I was glad to wake up I tell you! He’s doing his best ? admira 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 38 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said: We all know that the debts are rising by the day, but at least the wages for June will be the last of the bumper pay outs. The next problem for a buyer will be sorting the £7-£8 mill that we owe Arsenal. Could somebody like Mike Ashley re-negotiate a fairer deal for Beilik. Hang on most transfer fees are paid over the duration of a contract - we probably only owe instalments at this point, how many who knows but it won’t be all that amount. Crewton and jono 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Curtains said: Not until August lol Finally some good news! Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: There's also an added complication that it has been stated that Mel also has given a personal guarantee secured against his personal properties Which is why he isn’t cutting his price tag I suspect jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Ram Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: This is what I assumed to, until that Mail article implied otherwise. And of course - you have to believe every word that The Dail Mail print ? I suppose the concern now is that it's yet one more deal that has to be redone according to a new successful bidder being accepted I said it on the day that Ed Dawes first suggested CKs bid was about to collapse. Changing horses at this stage will take weeks, if not months to sort out. Time we simply don't have Exactly my concern Stiv. Just don't see how it can happen in time now. You couldn't buy a house in these timescales let alone a football club, especially one where the ownership structure of the various constituent parts is so complex and fragmented. Obviously very much hope we're both wrong but am fearing the worst more now than at any other point in this debacle. Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 40 minutes ago, admira said: I had a terrible dream last night that we'd been in a worldwide pandemic, Russia was starting WWIII, fuel and energy prices had doubled, inflation and food prices had gone through the roof, NHS waiting times had hit 13 hours, England suffered their heaviest home defat for over 90 years, train drivers were going on strike, human rights laws were going to be scrapped, the economy was heading for recession, social housing was in a right state, we had a lying deceitful narcissistic scumbag for Prime minister and worst of all, Derby County were at risk of going under. I was glad to wake up I tell you! Mucker1884, Ramarena, RadioactiveWaste and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, Parsnip said: I really do not want to see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 43 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: £20,471,158 from before administration. £3,500,000 after administration. Actually @RoyMac5 reading a bit further down, it looks like the post admin figure is now £3.75m RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Curtains said: MM owes MSD doesn’t he. No. Not unless he has Personal Guarantees and there isn’t enough money for us to cover MSD loan from our assets and from the sale of PPS. Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, PistoldPete said: No. Not unless he has Personal Guarantees and there isn’t enough money for us to cover MSD loan from our assets and from the sale of PPS. So Appleby deal is say 22 Million for the ground and out of other 18 Million they have to pay MSD 20 Million and HMRC etc . Is the feasible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Parsnip said: Man what a bunch of thugs. There's one of them smashing another on the head with the trophy. The guy in the middle is getting punched by the guy to the right of him. One guy has another in a headlock. Ban the lot of 'em. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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