The Administration Thread

[Rammy03]

2 minutes ago, Kuskus said:

So Nixon is saying that the money will arrive today so we will see if this is true

Well if the money arrives today doesn't that mean the deal is done

[RadioactiveWaste]

2 minutes ago, Kuskus said:

So Nixon is saying that the money will arrive today so we will see if this is true

On the one had he seems certain, on the other,he's Alan Nixon.

[Dai Capp]

Just feel I need to comment on page 1970... a fine year ?

[strawhillram]

Just now, Dai Capp said:

Just feel I need to comment on page 1970... a fine year ?

me too. 

[RoyMac5]

1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

On the one had he seems certain, on the other,he's Alan Nixon.

He's got to be being fed this information from one of (I'd guess) CK/Stretford/Cook. All the positive PR they're getting.

Edited June 13, 2022 by RoyMac5

[cosmic]

8 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Rough reading. 

Other clubs are pushing for us to be liquidated, according to Nixon. 

It would be great to get some names. 

Am I missing something? What are they angry for? 

[scout's dad]

12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

 

Edit: check out post below.

“We are Derby, no one likes us, we don’t care” (apologies to Millwall F C)

[strawhillram]

1 minute ago, cosmic said:

Am I missing something? What are they angry for? 

i'd like to see the list of clubs.  Add them to revenge is a meal best served cold list

 

I suppose WW and Middboro already on there

Edited June 13, 2022 by StrawHillRam

[angieram]

51 minutes ago, PistoldPete said:

How can Ramstrust welcome EFL involvement and then say negotiations should be without improper external influences? That’s a total contradiction. 

Okay, I'll try and answer this. What I think they (we) are saying is that we welcome the involvement of the EFL in as much as it will bring a level of independent scrutiny to the actions and negotiations by Quantuma that they have sadly lacked so far.

I think we've all been frustrated by the lack of communication from the administrators and the pace with which things have progressed. At very least the EFL will now know whether Quantuma are responding to Ashley, or indeed whether Ashley has contacted them directly with a genuine offer. And who else they are talking to, at what stage, and what the hold-ups are with Kirchner's bid. So far all anybody has seen is journalistic speculation on all of that, very much slanted to the point of view of which vested interest the journalists are talking to. 

However, we also expect the EFL to be there as an independent body, NOT to try to influence those proceedings, just to make sure that they happen as quickly as possible, so that a resolution can be reached in time for the EFL NOT to withdraw the golden share. That resolution should not be influenced by the EFL. So, at the same time, it is maybe a warning to the EFL not to overstep their mark. 

I think the EFL have enough right to be concerned about the apparent lack of progress from Quantuma. 

I also think that Quantuma (and a lot of us fans) have enough right to be sceptical about the EFL's motives. 

But we all need to put that aside now and work together to find a resolution. There is no truly independent body who can do this at the moment. (Roll on the implementation of the fan-led review!) That won't help us now though, and in the meantime the clock is ticking for Derby County if we want to be in the EFL next season.

[Animal is a Ram]

The longer I dwell on it, the more it feels like the EFL's 'involvement' is an attempt at saving face. The 'news' from Nixon reinforces this.

They haven't been *this* interested until 11.58pm. They could have helped more in significant ways, if they were really bothered. Especially around the Wycombe/Middlesbrough claims, but that's been done to death already.

[angieram]

4 minutes ago, Dai Capp said:

Just feel I need to comment on page 1970... a fine year ?

I agree. My favourite ever, before it all started to go downhill. I was thirteen.

[angieram]

6 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

The longer I dwell on it, the more it feels like the EFL's 'involvement' is an attempt at saving face. The 'news' from Nixon reinforces this.

They haven't been *this* interested until 11.58pm. They could have helped more in significant ways, if they were really bothered. Especially around the Wycombe/Middlesbrough claims, but that's been done to death already.

Totally agree. The pace at which these senior professionals work - on all sides - is shocking really. 

Edited June 13, 2022 by angieram

[Mostyn6]

quite bizarrely a colleague of mine has suggested that fans of other clubs, namely Macclesfield and Bury, maybe others, are angry that EFL are "HELPING", yes, Helping Derby County! ?

[NottmRAM]

16 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said:

It would appear not Premier, Nowt I can do about it, Nowt my friend can do about it, Nowt my friends friend can do about it, Perhaps the deal was on or perhaps it wasn't ?‍♀️, One things for sure the Sun will rise in Morning that fella is a certainty ?

I believe you posted in good faith. If I'd had that info, I would have posted it too. For what it's worth, I'm glad you did post it as it lifted my optimism.

[Mostyn6]

I think it's clear that @Unlucky Alf is no BS/ITK merchant and his posts hold integrity.

I too thought Morgan would've been a decent option/owner. Has a decent business touch in more than just football and Property development. I think he also owns several golf resorts. 

[May Contain Nuts]

7 minutes ago, Animal is a Ram said:

The longer I dwell on it, the more it feels like the EFL's 'involvement' is an attempt at saving face. The 'news' from Nixon reinforces this.

They haven't been *this* interested until 11.58pm. They could have helped more in significant ways, if they were really bothered. Especially around the Wycombe/Middlesbrough claims, but that's been done to death already.

It was right there in their statement, this isn't about trying to secure a future for Derby. They couldn't give a f*** about that.

Quote

"The League is increasingly concerned that the ongoing delays in the sale process now present a real risk to the integrity of next season’s competition, with the 2022/23 fixture list due to be released in less than two weeks, and need to act now in the best interests of the EFL"

 

Edited June 13, 2022 by Coconut's Beard

[PistoldPete]

6 minutes ago, angieram said:

Okay, I'll try and answer this. What I think they (we) are saying is that we welcome the involvement of the EFL in as much as it will bring a level of independent scrutiny to the actions and negotiations by Quantuma that they have sadly lacked so far.

I think we've all been frustrated by the lack of communication from the administrators and the pace with which things have progressed. At very least the EFL will now know whether Quantuma are responding to Ashley, or indeed whether Ashley has contacted them directly with a genuine offer. And who else they are talking to, at what stage, and what the hold-ups are with Kirchner's bid. So far all anybody has seen is journalistic speculation on all of that, very much slanted to the point of view of which vested interest the journalists are talking to. 

However, we also expect the EFL to be there as an independent body, NOT to try to influence those proceedings, just to make sure that they happen as quickly as possible, so that a resolution can be reached in time for the EFL NOT to withdraw the golden share. That resolution should not be influenced by the EFL. So, at the same time, it is maybe a warning to the EFL not to overstep their mark. 

I think the EFL have enough right to be concerned about the apparent lack of progress from Quantuma. 

I also think that Quantuma (and a lot of us fans) have enough right to be sceptical about the EFL's motives. 

But we all need to put that aside now and work together to find a resolution. There is no truly independent body who can do this at the moment. (Roll on the implementation of the fan-led review!) That won't help us now though, and in the meantime the clock is ticking for Derby County if we want to be in the EFL next season.

It is the EFL who has threatened to withdraw the golden share despite the fact that even now player wages are paid up to date. So the clock should not even have started to tick unless and until we start to have Cashflow problems. 

it is the EFL which has slowed the process with points deductions , embargo’s and indulging the Boro and Wycombe claims. 
 

and obviously the key point as you say is they are not independent, they represent the interests of the other71 and themselves. 
 

 

[Rammeister]

12 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

quite bizarrely a colleague of mine has suggested that fans of other clubs, namely Macclesfield and Bury, maybe others, are angry that EFL are "HELPING", yes, Helping Derby County! ?

I bet the Derby Junction fans can’t wait to stick their oar in too.

[StaffsRam]

26 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Rough reading. 

Other clubs are pushing for us to be liquidated, according to Nixon. 

It would be great to get some names. 

The oft-trotted platitude, the “football family”. Yeah, right ? I’d like names too, cos this won’t be forgotten in a hurry. ?

[Mihangel]

17 minutes ago, cosmic said:

Am I missing something? What are they angry for? 

Probably how we've engineered a situation where we've got no players, have been relegated, on the cusp of going out of business. You can see their point, they've all been hard done by and we've been shown such favouritism.