Ghost of Clough Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Just been pondering exactly what punishments we have had or are currently under, from the EFL. 1. -21 points 2. Transfer embargo for 4 windows to date? 3. Wage cap (£4k) ? 4. No loan fees can be paid 5. No £8m covid payment that all other clubs had 6. Witholding TV money 7. £100k fine 8. No contracts can be renewed. Is there anything else? Embargo is 28-30 months out of the past 48 Wage cap for this season has been £4.5k, down from £12k last season. Also squad size limit, preventing us from playing youth players who were already on the payroll. This also prevented us from giving youths pro deals as they then wouldn't be able to play for the first team. Rich84, Phuket Ram and uttoxram75 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: Just been pondering exactly what punishments we have had or are currently under, from the EFL. 1. -21 points 2. Transfer embargo for 4 windows to date? 3. Wage cap (£4k) ? 4. No loan fees can be paid 5. No £8m covid payment that all other clubs had 6. Witholding TV money 7. £100k fine 8. No contracts can be renewed. Is there anything else? Oh yes. Much more... Ok not punishments but the continuing uncertainty of the last two years due to 9. Unfounded claims over the stadium sale 10. Changing their minds over the acceptability of the amortisation method and then taking action against us retrospectively. 11. Making stuff up at the June disciplinary hearing in a desperate attempt to get us relegated. 12. The fiasco over the alternative fixtutre list, when they were "disappointed" that we weren't relegated . 13. Blocking the preferred bidder announcement due to looking after Gibson and co. 14. Spinning statements and leaks to their favoured chums in the media. 15. Generally being Bamfords and Gibsons. Caerphilly Ram, Crewton, ollycutts1982 and 8 others 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Maybe they would just claim against another club or two to even it out ? It would be certainly be squeaky bum time for any club teetering on the edge, financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Oh yes. Much more... Ok not punishments but the continuing uncertainty of the last two years due to 9. Unfounded claims over the stadium sale 10. Changing their minds over the acceptability of the amortisation method and then taking action against us retrospectively. 11. Making stuff up at the June disciplinary hearing in a desperate attempt to get us relegated. 12. The fiasco over the alternative fixtutre list, when they were "disappointed" that we weren't relegated . 13. Blocking the preferred bidder announcement due to looking after Gibson and co. 14. Spinning statements and leaks to their favoured chums in the media. 15. Generally being Bamfords and Gibsons. And the decision to include youth team players used in the FA Cup fixture due to Covid, against our players of professional standing quota when limiting the squad. uttoxram75, PistoldPete, RadioactiveWaste and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Embargo is 28-30 months out of the past 48 Wage cap for this season has been £4.5k, down from £12k last season. Also squad size limit, preventing us from playing youth players who were already on the payroll. This also prevented us from giving youths pro deals as they then wouldn't be able to play for the first team. Out of interest, do you know how many of the 10-12 months not in embargo from the last 48 were actually in a transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 50 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Just opened my company law exam? Now we know where Quantuma are getting their advice from... DarkFruitsRam7, kevinhectoring and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave123 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 TomG, Derby4Me, Ram a lamb a ding dong and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, IslandExile said: Are you cheating looking at the paper before the exam? It's taken over the course of a week. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: It's taken over the course of a week. Jesus, i hated them when they were 3 hours. minesahartington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: It's taken over the course of a week. Good luck - we could use a legal expert on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quagga Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Just been pondering exactly what punishments we have had or are currently under, from the EFL. 1. -21 points 2. Transfer embargo for 4 windows to date? 3. Wage cap (£4k) ? 4. No loan fees can be paid 5. No £8m covid payment that all other clubs had 6. Witholding TV money 7. £100k fine 8. No contracts can be renewed. Is there anything else? Haven't we got a 3 point suspended penalty should we pay wages a millisecond late at any point in the next billion years? I may have the timings slightly wrong but I think ballpark I'm right uttoxram75, RadioactiveWaste, Gritstone Tup and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave123 said: This week is absolutely massive for the club, 3 interested parties, 2 of which not willing to take on the liabilities with the 2 leeching clubs... This week really is where the administrators earn their fee. Derby4Me and Papahet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://www.redbubble.com/i/poster/Steve-Gibson-Subbuteo-Man-by-Luckythelab/17599510.LVTDI The steve gibson merchandise ... mug, t-shirt, stickers. A lot of rubbish! Indy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: This week is absolutely massive for the club, 3 interested parties, 2 of which not willing to take on the liabilities with the 2 leeching clubs... This week really is where the administrators earn their fee. https://the72.co.uk/260586/nixon-shares-updated-mike-ashley-stance-on-Derby-county-takeover-after-binnie-family-tables-bid/ All this talk about Div 2 earlier on here seems a bit premature Ram a lamb a ding dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Just opened my company law exam? There's more than 10 times that number of words on this thread on the topic. Conciseness is going to be your challenge.... Imagine answering your question using the musings of Curtains.... ? Ghost of Clough, richinspain, DarkFruitsRam7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Just opened my company law exam? Yeah, but does Mel own Pride Park or not? EtoileSportiveDeDerby and Ken Tram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 39 minutes ago, ilkleyram said: Yeah, but does Mel own Pride Park or not? Only Mel, the administrators and @i-Ram know the answer to that question, but the first two aren't telling and the third one is still trying to work out if the club badge has got a big eye on it or not! ariotofmyown, ilkleyram, Miggins and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, hintonsboots said: Do Q work on Sunday? Considering the incoming artificial EFL deadline. I’d guess q and their lawyers will be working 18 hours per day right now If they’re not we should be worried Edited January 23, 2022 by kevinhectoring Miggins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Ewetube said: Something I've wondered about, just a hypothetical. How would the parasite claims be considered by a club not in administration? Would they be expected to consider them in their accounts before they became an actual cost? Would that affect the clubs P&S submissions for that year or only if and when they became an actual cost? I don't know if anyone has any ideas on this, but it does give rise to some interesting scenarios. We’ve got 3 QCs who have rightly said the claims are rubbish. Against that you just ignore them for accounting purposes Phuket Ram and Ewetube 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewetube Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: We’ve got 3 QCs who have rightly said the claims are rubbish. Against that you just ignore them for accounting purposes Sounds good. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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