PistoldPete Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said: Eh ? Bryson was off to Burnley (just promoted to Prem) until Rush offerd him a five year contract with some unusual bonuses. Hughes was certainly of interest to Premier teams not sure how it took so long. As for keogh , well he never would have made it in the Premier and it's news to me anyone from the Premier was ever interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktwo Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I like the idea of an owner manager. We've tried every other combination of disasters since relegation , why not give this a go ?? i-Ram, jono, ariotofmyown and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, PistoldPete said: But a deal with Hmrc may well be a payment plan. I think that may be the difference between how the different bidders have structured their offers. Ah ok maybe it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 4 hours ago, PistoldPete said: But a deal with Hmrc may well be a payment plan. I think that may be the difference between how the different bidders have structured their offers. More than likely. In any case this is a significant amount, however the payments are spread, putting pressure on the clubs cashflow. Anyhow that's where we are, loaded with debt..... jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 41 minutes ago, europia said: More than likely. In any case this is a significant amount, however the payments are spread, putting pressure on the clubs cashflow. Anyhow that's where we are, loaded with debt..... If some owner or owners if gabby and ex man city teaming one could say if clear the debts and I cover any new signings that he might want or give new contracts to players he wants to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, bucktwo said: I like the idea of an owner manager. We've tried every other combination of disasters since relegation , why not give this a go ?? Didn't work out too well for Quinn at Sunderland.... jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, rsmini said: Not sure if anyone spotted this tweet from Andy Derbyshire the other day when asked about possible Mr Kirchner backers. Rooney has a connection to DC United as well!! Too small Current investments only total $34.7M Westlake Capital Inc (smartadvisormatch.com) Edited December 19, 2021 by RAM1966 rsmini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 2 hours ago, bucktwo said: I like the idea of an owner manager. We've tried every other combination of disasters since relegation , why not give this a go ?? I fancy an owner player. Sacks the manager if he subs him. RAM1966, jono, jimtastic56 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, PistoldPete said: If only Mel had owned a taxi firm that could have picked people up from the pub. If only Mel was a taxi driver and didn’t masquerade as a business man. Asanovic70 and strawhillram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 4 hours ago, LeedsCityRam said: Actually think a Gadsby/Appleby type stewardship could be more successful now than 10/15 years ago. Whilst parachute payments will continue to give unfair advantages, the onset of FFP since 2014 gives clubs like Derby with higher turnover an advantage over most that Gadsby & GSE wouldn't have had during their spells in charge. I do believe there is a cheaper route to success at this level & Blackburn/QPR are showing us the way. They promote via their youth sides & they sell players at their peak (Armstrong & Eze) to reinvest in the squad. Whilst we are now embracing the Academy model by necessity, we haven't historically cashed in on players at their peak...only Ince & Vydra left for bigger money. Hughes, Bryson & Keogh all stayed despite Prem interest but of course most of our buys were written down to zero eventually. Luke Plange is a example of what we should be doing more of...hoover up released Prem starlets, get them in the Academy & exposure to the first team as soon as practical. We have the infrastructure to continue to deliver this Norwich are another example of a club that have been run without massive backing from owners. What they have though & what we have been lacking is a clear strategy, a combination of youth step ups & great scouting, a Sporting Director to oversee the entire football operation (rather than owners making calls) & a consistent style of play. I would actually prefer an Appleby and/or Gadsby consortium over Kirchner because they a) will have experience of the club & how it ticks, b) we know they will run the club responsibly & c) they know that their decision making needs to be sharp in the absence of big funds. I agree with your sentiments, the FFP account/budget dosent allow for many mistakes which you know Kirchner will make! LeedsCityRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 54 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: I agree with your sentiments, the FFP account/budget dosent allow for many mistakes which you know Kirchner will make! Or he might not make any at all depanding who advices him. I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Or he might not make any at all depanding who advices him. Administrators said said I quote he is a smart cookie and knows his onions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 13 hours ago, PistoldPete said: If only Mel had owned a taxi firm that could have picked people up from the pub. With his reverse Midas touch he'd probably employ Andre Wisdom as his main driver. Van der MoodHoover, jono and Asanovic70 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Steve How Hard? said: With his reverse Midas touch he'd probably employ Andre Wisdom as his main driver. It wasn't Wisdom's fault it was his satnav. Lost at Forest. Steve How Hard? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_RAM Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) DC United links wouldn't surprise me, nowadays it's becoming more common that owners have a sport portfolio of owned teams, especially if the name of the clubs are similar naming format (see City Football Group) so much better for branding purposes. Edited December 20, 2021 by Retro_RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 16 hours ago, Ambitious said: The Gadsby/Appleby duo does raise a few eyebrows. I don't believe they have the enormous funds at hand, but we know that both have overseen the club's best positions post-Pickering. The one thing that I'm fairly sure of is that they're coming in to settle the situation and then make a sale of a club in a better position than it currently is, whilst making some money for themselves in the process. They protect the club in the short-term and make a smart investment long-term. I doubt they're going to be the ownership to re-establish a Premier League charge, but the club could survive with them at the helm. I think Appleby, whilst never splashing the cash, made some shrewd appointments for the club overall. I really like Glick and when you look at the trajectory of his career since his time here then you must give Appleby credit for being a smart sport-biased business man. I really think we could do a lot worse than that. I don't think I will be head-over-heels with whoever wins out the takeover, but anything to get the club back to a stable footing again will be appreciated for sure. Good post. Perhaps change your handle here to ‘Ambitious-ish’? Ambitious and GenBr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 10 hours ago, Gritstone Tup said: I agree with your sentiments, the FFP account/budget dosent allow for many mistakes which you know Kirchner will make! You don’t know that Hector was the best and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
td_evans Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 16 hours ago, rsmini said: Not sure if anyone spotted this tweet from Andy Derbyshire the other day when asked about possible Mr Kirchner backers. Rooney has a connection to DC United as well!! It seems Andy hasn't quite caught up that Westlake Capital are nothing to do with DC United and sold their stake back in 2016. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/soccer-insider/wp/2016/10/11/will-chang-sells-his-share-in-d-c-united-to-majority-investors/ rsmini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I've begun to realise he gets a hell of a lot wrong; but he was right about Gadbsy and also right last week when he said neither he or Appleby had the funds themselves. So he must have a contact somewhere. There's always a lot more talk and rumours than actual things that come to pass. I think he does hear things, but isn't really on the inside track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 7 hours ago, I know nuffin said: Administrators said said I quote he is a smart cookie and knows his onions I'd suggest he should make do with a burger van in the PP car park then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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