atherstoneram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 46 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Plenty Angie and I suspect a deal could be stuck very swiftly if A) the EFL poo or get off the pot and levy the punishment they see fit (in addition to the £100k fine imposed as a result of their own disciplinary procedures) thereby allowing us to either take our licks and move on or appeal their nonsense charges and punishments and B) Mel is willing and able to price the club and its assets in a manner that makes it an appealing investment. By the same token, I think it's extremely unlikely that we will find another owner with any connection, emotional or otherwise the the club which most likely points to a Far Eastern of US consortium which may, or may not be a good thing. Someone like Micky Arison would be welcome! Football has changed drastically from when i 1st started going to the BBG, in the old days it always seemed to be a local businessman/women who bought the club. Nowadays football is big business and clubs with owners who have deep pockets will always succeed because money these days buys success and it doesn't matter which part of the globe they come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, atherstoneram said: Football has changed drastically from when i 1st started going to the BBG, in the old days it always seemed to be a local businessman/women who bought the club. Nowadays football is big business and clubs with owners who have deep pockets will always succeed because money these days buys success and it doesn't matter which part of the globe they come from. Agreed, but in much the same way that I really wanted Cocu to be a success, I also wanted Mel to enjoy some glory days too. We move on... r_wilcockson, archram, angieram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Agreed, but in much the same way that I really wanted Cocu to be a success, I also wanted Mel to enjoy some glory days too. We move on... I think Cocu would have been a success in time even if we dropped into Div 1 in the process,the problem was MM wasn't prepared to give him that time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 27 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: I think Cocu would have been a success in time even if we dropped into Div 1 in the process,the problem was MM wasn't prepared to give him that time In fairness, I think Mel would have kept him, especially given the £8 million severance payment! Not sure the same could be said of the fans though... RadioactiveWaste and GB SPORTS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: In fairness, I think Mel would have kept him, especially given the £8 million severance payment! Not sure the same could be said of the fans though... More likely 32 Red RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: In fairness, I think Mel would have kept him, especially given the £8 million severance payment! Not sure the same could be said of the fans though... Was that seriously his pay off . The mind boggles. Fwanks compo paid for some of it I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Was that seriously his pay off . The mind boggles. Fwanks compo paid for some of it I suppose Thats what you get when you sign a manager on a Four year contract, find yourself at the bottom of the table,instead of giving him time to turn things round panic and get rid then bring someone in who has no managerial experience whatsoever. That's a good way to run a club. Derby4Me, Jimbo Ram, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Was that seriously his pay off . The mind boggles. Fwanks compo paid for some of it I suppose Him and his staff buddy. Chris, Twan and one other too I think. Heavy old price to pay (at some point!). Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Was that seriously his pay off . The mind boggles. Fwanks compo paid for some of it I suppose I’m not sure what the amount was, but it was thought that Cocu’s wages werent too high. Although Cocu waivered his payout when he left anyway so it didn’t matter. Probably saw what the clubs finances were like and realised he wasn’t going to see it for a good few years! Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, TuffLuff said: I’m not sure what the amount was, but it was thought that Cocu’s wages werent too high. Although Cocu waivered his payout when he left anyway so it didn’t matter. Probably saw what the clubs finances were like and realised he wasn’t going to see it for a good few years! He didn't waiver his payout,he agreed to take a lower payment than due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 31 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: In fairness, I think Mel would have kept him, especially given the £8 million severance payment! Not sure the same could be said of the fans though... Have you got a link to anywhere that shows he got £8 million. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ossieram said: Have you got a link to anywhere that shows he got £8 million. Thought it was noted in the DET bud. I'll see if I can find it. As per earlier post, the figure (if correct) was for all the coaches not just Cocu. I think they were all contracted for 3 years plus which might explain the sizeable total. EDIT - can't find DET article but hopefully this will allay any lingering doubts! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9580807/Potential-Derby-County-buyers-WALKING-AWAY-discovering-debts-60MILLION.html Edited September 8, 2021 by 86 Hair Islands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 24 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Thats what you get when you sign a manager on a Four year contract, find yourself at the bottom of the table,instead of giving him time to turn things round panic and get rid then bring someone in who has no managerial experience whatsoever. That's a good way to run a club. Who did even worse ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Thought it was noted in the DET bud. I'll see if I can find it. As per earlier post, the figure (if correct) was for all the coaches not just Cocu. I think they were all contracted for 3 years plus which might explain the sizeable total. EDIT - can't find DET article but hopefully this will allay any lingering doubts! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9580807/Potential-Derby-County-buyers-WALKING-AWAY-discovering-debts-60MILLION.html Daily mail!!! Nah. GboroRam and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 52 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Thought it was noted in the DET bud. I'll see if I can find it. As per earlier post, the figure (if correct) was for all the coaches not just Cocu. I think they were all contracted for 3 years plus which might explain the sizeable total. EDIT - can't find DET article but hopefully this will allay any lingering doubts! https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9580807/Potential-Derby-County-buyers-WALKING-AWAY-discovering-debts-60MILLION.html Got to love a nice, positive, up-lifting headline about Derby. Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: In fairness, I think Mel would have kept him, especially given the £8 million severance payment! Not sure the same could be said of the fans though... I still can reconcile bringing in Cocu with a breif to bring through young players and also signing aging wayne rooney in a deal heavily sponson influenced (with a promise to make him manager) - do one thing or the other thing, surely.....still, it's past tense now and things weren't working out with Cocu. Comrade 86 and RammingStone66 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: ...still, it's past tense now and things weren't working out with Cocu. I wonder if we get to stop paying him if he gets another managerial contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: I wonder if we get to stop paying him if he gets another managerial contract? Nope We will still pay him until it is paid up up full that only when be able to stop paying him. Boycie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: I wonder if we get to stop paying him if he gets another managerial contract? That's normally how it works. That's how wee Billy won Glasgow Garden of the Year 4 years running. dabber, Comrade 86 and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rev said: That's normally how it works. That's how wee Billy won Glasgow Garden of the Year 4 years running. Mistrusting the photographic 'evidence' little Billy provided, the judges ended up demanding a visual inspection... AbuDerbyDave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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