RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: He who pays the piper calls the tune,i am sure it is more advantageous from a Red32 point of view for the club to be known as Wayne Rooneys Derby County I'm sure it'd be more advantageous to have a successful Cocu team at the top of the league. uttoxram75 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Did he???. That was what the club said in one of their infrequent press releases,whether that is correct is open to conjecture. Did he jump or was he pushed. I imagine if he left he wouldn't be getting a pay off. So you would be correct in that assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, MuespachRam said: Even you don’t think that Gregory was the reason we stayed up… How many games did we actually win from February….? 1 game….so saying that It is all because of Gregory is laughable. I could just as easily say, we didn’t win a single game after February without Max Bird starting, or David Marshall, or andre wisdom, or Graham shinnie, or Nathan Bryce or Matt Clarke….. We beat Wycombe, Boro, Huddersfield and Luton. Pretty sure he scored in a couple of those. The same doesn’t apply for the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said: Gutless? Cocu was immensely brave with playing the youth. Placed far more trust in them than Rooney has. He was obliged to play Rooney. He didn’t have a choice, other than walk away. Did he walk away though? My lasting memory was Cocu being given all the plaudits for waiving half of his severance pay which he would have received if he'd been sacked by the club He wouldn't have been entitled to anything if he'd quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, Tyler Durden said: Did he walk away though? My lasting memory was Cocu being given all the plaudits for waiving half of his severance pay which he would have received if he'd been sacked by the club He wouldn't have been entitled to anything if he'd quit. I don’t think he walked, sorry if that comment suggested he did. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 My view is that Cocu didn't have to pick Rooney, but we would have to pay a larger percentage of his wage if he wasn't playing. 32Red would not put money in for their number to be sat on the bench! I believe we financially had to play him, couldn't afford otherwise. atherstoneram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, BondJovi said: My view is that Cocu didn't have to pick Rooney, but we would have to pay a larger percentage of his wage if he wasn't playing. 32Red would not put money in for their number to be sat on the bench! I believe we financially had to play him, couldn't afford otherwise. Why not, it's not like Cocu spent the money on a striker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Why not, it's not like Cocu spent the money on a striker! He wanted to! Might have needed to save that money to try again in January. You seriously still believe he chose not to sign a striker? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? Day and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Why not, it's not like Cocu spent the money on a striker! Do you not remember Dursan? I think he tried but Mel wouldn't pay the £1.5m asking price... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? The players gave everything tonight for DCFC and their manager. We'll be raite with Rooney as our manager if we get through this takeover and EFL shitshow. Crewton, RamontheMoor, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Just now, YorkshireRam said: Do you not remember Dursan? I think he tried but Mel wouldn't pay the £1.5m asking price... But did you not see how 'easy' it was to sign Gregory and we ended up with no-one, CKR fell into our lap! atherstoneram and BondJovi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? Yes, a team selection that was criticised beforehand for being resigned to a defeat ended up putting in a valiant display and earning us a hard-fought point. We were never going to outplay West Brom so being resolute defensively was our best bet at getting something from the game... Rooney takes a fair amount of credit for that. Foxy Ram, wixman1884 and uttoxram75 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 21 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? It doesn't really matter mate. People who don't rate Rooney will continue not to rate him. People who are not sure will see how it pans out. Results, eventually, will decide Rooney's tenure at Derby. Its not worth falling out about, all we can do, as fans, is get behind the manager and players at every game. Que sera sera. Derby blood, RamontheMoor, Zag zig and 7 others 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? I'm guessing a few people are still weighing up their comparators before answering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Bris Vegas said: We beat Wycombe, Boro, Huddersfield and Luton. Pretty sure he scored in a couple of those. The same doesn’t apply for the others. Oh, so you mean from the start of February, in which case, wisdom, shinnie and Marshall should all be credited with saving us single handedly….!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Crewton said: Does Rooney get any credit for tonight? Another poster has already commented that this board is a small microcosm of supporters compared to the thousands who go and watch the team. In the games I've been to this season I didn't hear any dissent whatsoever directed towards Rooney or Mel Morris for that matter in any of them. Foxy Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 hours ago, MuespachRam said: Oh, so you mean from the start of February, in which case, wisdom, shinnie and Marshall should all be credited with saving us single handedly….!! No logic as they were there before. The point remained that Rooney failed to win a single game as Derby manager last season without Bielik or Gregory starting. The same can’t be said of any other player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: I'm sure it'd be more advantageous to have a successful Cocu team at the top of the league. Which we could have been if he had been given the time.If MM wasn't prepared to give him that time why give him a Four year contract. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I imagine if he left he wouldn't be getting a pay off. So you would be correct in that assumption. I didn't make that assumption, that was in response to a @RoyMac5 posting who said he walked away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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