SFox1993 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Well sure, but the right attitude also means realising what stage you are at. Duncan thought he was good enough for that Italian team whose name I can't remember. ? I noticed some of the others, but Solomon looked particularly good on the ball I thought. Who played in the last few U23 games was it G-P? fiorentina ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, SFox1993 said: fiorentina ? I was going to guess "Italy" but your answer seems more plausible ? SFox1993 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Well sure, but the right attitude also means realising what stage you are at. Duncan thought he was good enough for that Italian team whose name I can't remember. ? I noticed some of the others, but Solomon looked particularly good on the ball I thought. Who played in the last few U23 games was it G-P? What I mean is that it appears he wants to find a club where he will play - whether L1, L2 or even non-league. Bateman partnered Cashin in the final game, WGP in the two games prior to that (Cashin in first team), and Cashin in the 3 before those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: What I mean is that it appears he wants to find a club where he will play - whether L1, L2 or even non-league. Bateman partnered Cashin in the final game, WGP in the two games prior to that (Cashin in first team), and Cashin in the 3 before those. Might have been WGP, can't recall tbh. Still hopefully they will all have grown some in the summer break and look different! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: It depends if he felt he was good enough for our first team, or whether he wants to leave to pursue first team football elsewhere. 33 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: What I mean is that it appears he wants to find a club where he will play - whether L1, L2 or even non-league. First team football elsewhere is not always as easy as people imagine. The expectation seems to be that you will automatically play. However it really doesn’t always follow that a player from a championship club can automatically drop to league 1 or league 2 and shine. It’s an entirely different ball game all together. Clubs don’t send players to improve the things they’re good at they go to learn all the bits they either don’t like at struggle with to try and round them off as players. Also, and more importantly, any young player choosing to go into L1/2 from a top academy will soon find that most if not all of their attributes are worthless or barely used and that all of their weaknesses are cruelly exposed every single week by players managers and systems that do not require much in the way of technical skills! It simply doesn’t follow that ‘dropping down’ the levels will result in good players standing out…dropping off and wanting the ball to your feet only to see it fly over your head all week every week is hard work! Players and supporters need to understand it’s like a different sport!! Suggesting a player can’t play in the Championship cos he didn’t excel in league 1/2, or going from a championship club and suggesting he’ll play regularly just because the standard is lower is like saying you can’t be good at Tennis because you’re not good at Badmington!!! Edited June 16, 2021 by Ravabeerbelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BodminRam Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Very worrying times ahead i fear Welp, under 2 weeks now until the contracts of Wisdom, Waghorn, Davies and Marriott expire. As I understand it, club haven't discussed any sort of terms (even informally) for around three weeks. Seems any deals hinge on a takeover. #DCFC Derby County have just 14 players under contract for next... After releasing their end of season retained list, Derby have just 14 players under contract for next season, with just two months to fix it theathletic.com 9:17 AM · Jun 17, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, BodminRam said: Very worrying times ahead i fear Welp, under 2 weeks now until the contracts of Wisdom, Waghorn, Davies and Marriott expire. As I understand it, club haven't discussed any sort of terms (even informally) for around three weeks. Seems any deals hinge on a takeover. #DCFC Derby County have just 14 players under contract for next... After releasing their end of season retained list, Derby have just 14 players under contract for next season, with just two months to fix it theathletic.com 9:17 AM · Jun 17, 2021 Chances are that we have a lot less than two months as well, as there is still no sign of the takeover and the EFL are still messing around with our appeal process. The EFL are deducting points without officially deducting points as it stands with their inability to move at anything other than glacial pace. Even if Mel was happy to make some moves this summer he can't. We are bang in trouble as it stands. Edited June 17, 2021 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 (edited) Marriott off to Hull then Edited June 17, 2021 by Rammy03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 We are going to be left with a paper thin squad. Our club is in absolute ruins and I seriously fear for our future as a competitive force in the Championship. We all endured and suffered last season’s debacle, best brace ourselves folks because we are only in the eye of the storm right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RammingStone66 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 In real terms how fast would a takeover need to happen for us to even attempt a half decent transfer window? Also am I right in thinking even if the new owner had loads of money he would be restricted by the club's current P&S position, so we wouldnt have transfer fees flying around and would still be searching the bargain bins, but we would be able to pay bigger wages because the embargo would be over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 I’m no expert however even if a take over is imminent, don’t the EFL have to approve it? And from what we have seen with other clubs (not the 2 jokers trying to buy us) it’s not a quick process. I doubt the EFL restrictions and or a takeover would be concluded before end of July earliest. It’s going to be a long and hard season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, TexasRam said: I’m no expert however even if a take over is imminent, don’t the EFL have to approve it? And from what we have seen with other clubs (not the 2 jokers trying to buy us) it’s not a quick process. I doubt the EFL restrictions and or a takeover would be concluded before end of July earliest. It’s going to be a long and hard season For all we know the EFL may have started their process? Would be nice if the next takeover news to come out is to say its completed rather than pending EFL process etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, BodminRam said: Very worrying times ahead i fear Welp, under 2 weeks now until the contracts of Wisdom, Waghorn, Davies and Marriott expire. As I understand it, club haven't discussed any sort of terms (even informally) for around three weeks. Seems any deals hinge on a takeover. #DCFC Derby County have just 14 players under contract for next... After releasing their end of season retained list, Derby have just 14 players under contract for next season, with just two months to fix it theathletic.com 9:17 AM · Jun 17, 2021 What makes you think there haven’t been any discussions? First-team players out of contract beyond summer of 2021 and in discussions about their futures: Andre Wisdom, Martyn Waghorn, Jack Marriott, Curtis Davies, Henrich Ravas. Ghost of Clough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: What makes you think there haven’t been any discussions? First-team players out of contract beyond summer of 2021 and in discussions about their futures: Andre Wisdom, Martyn Waghorn, Jack Marriott, Curtis Davies, Henrich Ravas. Hes put that snippet in from the athletic I think. The ‘my understanding’ is Ryan Conway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Players left/leaving due to being out of contract: Carson - 0 minutes played last season Mitchell - 0 minutes played last season Idem - 0 minutes played last season Malone - 0 minutes played last season Jozefzoon - 0 minutes played last season Players possibly staying, possibly leaving: Ravas - 0 minutes played last season Wisdom - 3116 minutes played last season (75%) Davies - 973 minutes played last season (24%) Waghorn - 1889 minutes played last season (46%) Marriott - 201 minutes played last season (5%) Loan players: Clarke - 3687 minutes played last season (89%) Mengi - 668 minutes played last season (16%) Edmundson - 749 minutes played last season (18%) Baningime - 93 minutes played last season (2%) Roberts - 673 minutes played last season (16%) Gregory - 565 minutes played last season (14%) So far we have only lost 6 players from last season's squad, only one of them played any significant amount of football, and another is supposedly returning next season. It's also very likely that at least 4 of the 5 we're in negotiations with stay with us. We will also make signings over the next couple of months. Stop panicking. Carnero, Long Time Lurker, Tamworthram and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Players left/leaving due to being out of contract: Carson - 0 minutes played last season Mitchell - 0 minutes played last season Idem - 0 minutes played last season Malone - 0 minutes played last season Jozefzoon - 0 minutes played last season Players possibly staying, possibly leaving: Ravas - 0 minutes played last season Wisdom - 3116 minutes played last season (75%) Davies - 973 minutes played last season (24%) Waghorn - 1889 minutes played last season (46%) Marriott - 201 minutes played last season (5%) Loan players: Clarke - 3687 minutes played last season (89%) Mengi - 668 minutes played last season (16%) Edmundson - 749 minutes played last season (18%) Baningime - 93 minutes played last season (2%) Roberts - 673 minutes played last season (16%) Gregory - 565 minutes played last season (14%) So far we have only lost 6 players from last season's squad, only one of them played any significant amount of football, and another is supposedly returning next season. It's also very likely that at least 4 of the 5 we're in negotiations with stay with us. We will also make signings over the next couple of months. Stop panicking. much depends on the reasoning behind the EFL's rejection of the Marriott extension though. I suppose the concern is that our squad will be at best on a par with the one last season which just avoided the drop. We will also be able to take on out of contract players outside the window and this year may provide opportunities more than any other. I am still less confident than you though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: For all we know the EFL may have started their process? Would be nice if the next takeover news to come out is to say its completed rather than pending EFL process etc True and let’s hope so, knowing Derby though I very much doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshfieldRam Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: So far we have only lost 6 players from last season's squad, only one of them played any significant amount of football, and another is supposedly returning next season. It's also very likely that at least 4 of the 5 we're in negotiations with stay with us. We will also make signings over the next couple of months. Stop panicking. With what money?.... With a transfer embargo?..... With an owner who's that desperate to get out he will openly sell to anyone. I think we all need to face the fact that unless something happens quickly off the field, we could well be the next Bolton. GenBr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 At least when we are relegated to league 1 we will have no dead wood and low wages, we will be the envy of the football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, AshfieldRam said: With what money?.... With a transfer embargo?..... With an owner who's that desperate to get out he will openly sell to anyone. I think we all need to face the fact that unless something happens quickly off the field, we could well be the next Bolton. AshfieldRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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