Andicis Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Blondest Goat said: Ipswich and Plymouth just got out of league one playing attractive football. No reason why we can't do the same. Ipswich spent loads of money. That's how they got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 32 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: Hope not - those who think we can replace his goals might want to watch a few of them again. Not to mention that if we do replace him up front, he’d be a dream playing behind the front line, spraying the ball around like a frisbee, then scoring the odd screamer from 40 yards it’s a romantic idea, the twilight of your career at ‘your’ club. Hopefully he’s negotiating tho’ . Also hope that Warne’s careless comments about him along the way haven’t pi$$ed him off Which 'careless' comments are these? Maybe Jeff Stelling prompted him into making some? Caerphilly Ram and jimtastic56 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmoram2024Ramsrontheup Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Andicis said: Ipswich spent loads of money. That's how they got out. Yeah just checked Plymouth £300k + 4-5 loan fees for mumba, Cosgrove, Whittaker , azziz + three frees Ipswich £2.1 m on Leif Davis + Harness + camara + possibly fee for broadhead + loan fees for Hirst and John - Jules + 4-5 frees jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmoram2024Ramsrontheup Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, simmoram1995 said: Yeah just checked Plymouth £300k + 4-5 loan fees for mumba, Cosgrove, Whittaker , azziz + three frees Ipswich £2.1 m on Leif Davis + Harness + camara + possibly fee for broadhead + loan fees for Hirst and John - Jules + 4-5 frees 9-10 new signings each jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Which 'careless' comments are these? Maybe Jeff Stelling prompted him into making some? such as ‘40% of the time he’s frustrating’, or ‘is he injured, Owen, I don’t know...’. Fair enough you might stay, he didn’t pick Didzy so why should they get on. But managers need to be careful what they say about players in public and Warne is sometimes not. It’s a bit too much all about him and his hats. That said, he’s told us he’ll only recruit players if the personal chemistry with him is right. So in time you’d expect a group that will be as tight as (reportedly) the Rotherham group was. Didzy is - in div 1 - a star. I don’t think stars fit very easily into Warne’s World - and that’ likely to be a glass ceiling on his potential as a manager sage, norwichram, Wolfie20 and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: such as ‘40% of the time he’s frustrating’, or ‘is he injured, Owen, I don’t know...’. Fair enough you might stay, he didn’t pick Didzy so why should they get on. But managers need to be careful what they say about players in public and Warne is sometimes not. It’s a bit too much all about him and his hats. That said, he’s told us he’ll only recruit players if the personal chemistry with him is right. So in time you’d expect a group that will be as tight as (reportedly) the Rotherham group was. Didzy is - in div 1 - a star. I don’t think stars fit very easily into Warne’s World - and that’ likely to be a glass ceiling on his potential as a manager How on earth do you know? Warne knows these players, he works with them almost daily. More than you or I ever will. Maybe, just maybe, and hear me out here... he might have an idea of the type of things to say which could motivate a player that he knows. Obviously, you maybe completely right, but 20 odd goals says the complete opposite. The_Sheriff, Andicis, Gisby and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: such as ‘40% of the time he’s frustrating’, or ‘is he injured, Owen, I don’t know...’. Fair enough you might stay, he didn’t pick Didzy so why should they get on. But managers need to be careful what they say about players in public and Warne is sometimes not. It’s a bit too much all about him and his hats. That said, he’s told us he’ll only recruit players if the personal chemistry with him is right. So in time you’d expect a group that will be as tight as (reportedly) the Rotherham group was. Didzy is - in div 1 - a star. I don’t think stars fit very easily into Warne’s World - and that’ likely to be a glass ceiling on his potential as a manager A quick search online will also provide plenty of positive, constructive quotes from Warne about McGoldrick. Your personal views on Warne may be valid but don’t try and colour every scenario against the bloke, he’s not the first to wear a hat inside and he’s not solely said negative things about McGoldrick. In fact, here’s a recent ish article on the subject which apart from the odd Warne-ism seems to be a reasonably balanced take on the contract situation; https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/65336807.amp Also, he didn’t “sign” Didzy, but he did pick him, and persist with him which resulted in his most prolific season. Edited May 17, 2023 by Caerphilly Ram David Graham Brown, Carnero, SKRam and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Rumours seen thus far by me... Darnell Fisher. Boro CH. All and sundry linked us with him in January. Warne said he wasn't interested. Pompey CH Clark Robertson aged 29. PW knows him from his time at Rotherham. Pompey skipper but only 23 games this season. Injured? Luton CH Sonny Bradley, 32. Just 19 games this season... 19 year old midfielder from Rangers, Charlie Lindsay, who managed 12 goals in their B team. I know nothing of the lad but he is said to be generating "interest" with Derby and others. Of the 4, young Charlie might be worth a punt but that's about it IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, simmoram1995 said: Yeah just checked Plymouth £300k + 4-5 loan fees for mumba, Cosgrove, Whittaker , azziz + three frees Ipswich £2.1 m on Leif Davis + Harness + camara + possibly fee for broadhead + loan fees for Hirst and John - Jules + 4-5 frees Broadhead was 1.5m I think. Clarke another 1m as well. No doubt McKenna is a decent coach but Ipswich’s budget was pretty much unprecedented for this level and not going up would’ve been criminal. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 23 minutes ago, nottingram said: Broadhead was 1.5m I think. Clarke another 1m as well. No doubt McKenna is a decent coach but Ipswich’s budget was pretty much unprecedented for this level and not going up would’ve been criminal. The wage bill was over £16m last season, it would’ve probably been closer to £20m this season since they didn’t really lose anyone of value. They have a wage bill that dwarfs a lot of championship clubs, including the likes of Luton and Coventry who are top 6 championship clubs, so it’s not surprising. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collo_DCFC11 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, Srg said: How on earth do you know? Warne knows these players, he works with them almost daily. More than you or I ever will. Maybe, just maybe, and hear me out here... he might have an idea of the type of things to say which could motivate a player that he knows. Obviously, you maybe completely right, but 20 odd goals says the complete opposite. Spot on. I happened to have interviewed Warne a few times when I worked in the Apprenticeship sector, when he was still Rotherham manager and he was doing various higher level courses on Leadership & Management and Psychology etc. He is big in to his psychology, motivation and leadership techniques and is a very intelligent man and I am 100% confident that everything he says to his players and to the media etc. is said for a reason and because he understands his players as people and knows how to make them tick. I know most managers should have this skillset but I know for a fact that he is particularly interested in it and it is a major strength of his. I don't think anything is said carelessly or by chance. David Graham Brown, derbydaz22, Gisby and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Ambitious said: The wage bill was over £16m last season, it would’ve probably been closer to £20m this season since they didn’t really lose anyone of value. They have a wage bill that dwarfs a lot of championship clubs, including the likes of Luton and Coventry who are top 6 championship clubs, so it’s not surprising. If the top league 1 teams have income of around £8 million from tickets and tv , that means it could cost around £10 mill to get out of this league. Would David Clowes put his dads family business at risk by making it up out of his own pocket? Even if he was allowed. It could be a longer stay in Lg1 than we think. ziggyram59 and Miggins 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Paul Warne spotted at SW - Peterborough game …I wonder if we could be interested in any Pboro players should they not go up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 On 17/05/2023 at 09:55, Andicis said: Ipswich spent loads of money. That's how they got out. Maybe they've spent a bit by league 1 standards, but its hardly loads of money. They've not spent much at all on any season they've been down here and i wouldn't have thought our transfer business will be much different now that some of the restrictions have been lifted Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, S8TY said: Paul Warne spotted at SW - Peterborough game …I wonder if we could be interested in any Pboro players should they not go up ? Joe Ward for RWB on a free would be great value. Not many others who would be available for a reasonable fee Caerphilly Ram, S8TY and Carnero 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: Maybe they've spent a bit by league 1 standards, but its hardly loads of money. They've not spent much at all on any season they've been down here and i wouldn't have thought our transfer business will be much different now that some of the restrictions have been lifted Are they competing with Man City? What's their income? Edited May 18, 2023 by RoyMac5 Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, GenBr said: Maybe they've spent a bit by league 1 standards, but its hardly loads of money. They've not spent much at all on any season they've been down here and i wouldn't have thought our transfer business will be much different now that some of the restrictions have been lifted Why would we compare it to any other league? They've spent loads at league one. End. That's the only relevant point. Jram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Are they competing with Man City? What's their income? Yeah, don't understand his point at all. His first sentence immediately discredits everything else he says after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Andicis said: Why would we compare it to any other league? They've spent loads at league one. End. That's the only relevant point. 43 minutes ago, Andicis said: Yeah, don't understand his point at all. His first sentence immediately discredits everything else he says after that. Sorry - did you forget what you said? Let me refresh your memory - you said Ipswich spent loads of money. They didn't and now you're upset because you were wrong i take it? Spending less than £2 million in a season is not "loads of money". End. Only relevant point. Not sure why you've got so upset about it, but its not beyond the realms of possibility that we will do the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 54 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Are they competing with Man City? What's their income? No idea what your point is here, but Ipswich are one of the biggest teams in League 1, as we are. They are going to be able to spend more than the likes of Burton, but that doesnt mean they have "spent loads of money" S8TY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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