Ewe Ram Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: It can't be long until woman are allowed to play in the men's league. It would seem strange that woman are able to commentate on, offer punditry on TV and now officiate a sport that they aren't allowed to compete in . It doesn’t matter how much we might think it’s a great idea to be that inclusive, men and women are not physically able to be equal. Mentally yes, physically not at all. DavesaRam, SKRam and Norman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Ewe Ram said: It doesn’t matter how much we might think it’s a great idea to be that inclusive, men and women are not physically able to be equal. Mentally yes, physically not at all. Does that matter? Is Tommo as physically able as players like Kazim and Davies? They were both playing Championship football last season. It wouldn't be likely to see a female compete with the elite men's level, but couldn't the best female play for a lower league side? Even if it's non-league, some females will be better footballers than the men. IslandExile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 When our youths play against non-league teams, the difference in physicality is often apparent. I'd expect exactly the same issues if women ever played at that level, unless the laws of the game were radically changed. Well in the past, I've played indoor football when good female players were involved, on the understanding that we played a "non-contact" game. Under those conditions, they weren't out of place at all. Ewe Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Most of the women I know in similar positions of seniority say the same. Until we get rid of "targets" for things like gender diversity we can't claim there's true equality is their view. And they're absolutely right (as well as being talented individuals). There are loads of crap male refs and will prob be same for female refs the more they come into the game. Does not matter what gender you are as long as you are good. cstand, 48 hours and bcnram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Crewton said: When our youths play against non-league teams, the difference in physicality is often apparent. I'd expect exactly the same issues if women ever played at that level, unless the laws of the game were radically changed. Well in the past, I've played indoor football when good female players were involved, on the understanding that we played a "non-contact" game. Under those conditions, they weren't out of place at all. When our youths play against non-league teams, it's a team full of young, inexperienced, small and typically not very muscular players. You have those types of players in amongst an experienced and strong team all the time. It's called balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 12 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: When our youths play against non-league teams, it's a team full of young, inexperienced, small and typically not very muscular players. You have those types of players in amongst an experienced and strong team all the time. It's called balance. When a female player starts playing in men's football regularly, we'll perhaps revisit this debate, but when we have many threads bemoaning the way our players have often been "outmuscled", it seems unlikely to be anytime soon. We might see how realistic you're being if/when Transwomen are permitted to play in women's football. Edited March 2, 2023 by Crewton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Does that matter? Is Tommo as physically able as players like Kazim and Davies? They were both playing Championship football last season. It wouldn't be likely to see a female compete with the elite men's level, but couldn't the best female play for a lower league side? Even if it's non-league, some females will be better footballers than the men. But these small, less developed players aren’t usually thrown into experienced teams, they’re carefully managed and slowly integrated. They grow older, fitter, more muscular etc. women don’t do that, they aren’t biologically able to match men with their physique Crewton and 48 hours 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Reckon Millie Bright could handle herself in a mens game, proper unit her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) On 01/03/2023 at 15:03, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Some of the comments in this thread are absolutely rank btw. I don't expect the female forum members will find it particularly pleasant reading. On 01/03/2023 at 16:53, Ewe Ram said: I’m female and I’ve got a sense of humour about these things. We’re not allowed to have a bit of banter? Ha ha absolutely brilliant! But in all seriousness, us men will tell you women when its acceptable to laugh at sexist jokes. Edited March 2, 2023 by G STAR RAM 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Ha ha absolutely brilliant! But in all seriousness, us men will tell you women when it’s acceptable to laugh at sexist jokes. We’ll tell you when you’re funny. Sufferingfool, SaffyRam, DavesaRam and 11 others 3 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Definitely the best ref we’ve had this season, physically fit and actually able to keep up with play which the majority of her male counterparts seem unable to do. Let the game flow, used her cards when she needed to, always had the game under control. Her Linos were s*** sadly, and she didn’t really clamp down on the time wasting but no male ref has done that this season. She was excellent and hopefully the trailblazer for other female refs to follow her. Sadly I don’t think she’ll be at this level for long, she’ll be fast tracked to the prem and when she’s not reffing she can get in Stockley Park and sort those VAR idiots out. OssieEnd, Premier ram, IslandExile and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OssieEnd Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Women's football is awesome and I love watching it. Just as I love watching women's Tennis . Nobody in Tennis is ever thinking of merging the two games though, maybe only on pay, so women's and men's football should just coexist together and compliment each other. I think it's great female officials are becoming more and more commonplace in the men's game though. I would go so far as to say they are going to be better than a lot of male refs at this level just because they would have more rigorous tests ect just to prove themselves being female. We have had some laughably bad male refs at PP this season. Embarrassingly so. SaffyRam, Dordogne-Ram, Sufferingfool and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackal Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 01/03/2023 at 09:21, Hans Datdo-Dishes said: I agree that gender shouldn't be an issue and we should judge on the ability of the referee. Anyway, considering the ref last night, marks out of 2... I'd give her 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 21 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Ha ha absolutely brilliant! But in all seriousness, us men will tell you women when its acceptable to laugh at sexist jokes. I'm not speaking for anyone, although I'd be willing to bet more women found this thread depressing than funny. angieram, Jubbs, SaffyRam and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'm not speaking for anyone, although I'd be willing to bet more women found this thread depressing than funny. Glad someone said it. This thread is a microcosm of the issue of women both partaking in football and attending it. I'm not about to get offended on someone else's behalf, because there's far too much of that in the world right now, just think we can do better here. SaffyRam, Jubbs, Bessie1 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 32 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'm not speaking for anyone, although I'd be willing to bet more women found this thread depressing than funny. Is that because the number of your posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 4 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'm not speaking for anyone, although I'd be willing to bet more women found this thread depressing than funny. 4 hours ago, Srg said: Glad someone said it. This thread is a microcosm of the issue of women both partaking in football and attending it. I'm not about to get offended on someone else's behalf, because there's far too much of that in the world right now, just think we can do better here. I can only assume a number of posts have been removed because Ive just read the whole thread and could only see one post that I could see that some might deem offensive, on the whole it seems most people complimenting her performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OssieEnd Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: I'm not speaking for anyone, although I'd be willing to bet more women found this thread depressing than funny. Why are my "likes" not being allowed ? I've "Liked " lots of posters but it keeps on saying not allowed ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: I can only assume a number of posts have been removed because Ive just read the whole thread and could only see one post that I could see that some might deem offensive, on the whole it seems most people complimenting her performance. Yes some have gone G STAR RAM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 When did @DarkFruitsRam7get all woke? I assume it was after the incident he posted on here about the Hillsborough away end toilet? Women can give as good as they get, no pun intended. Ive worked in a factory staffed predominantly by women, some of the banter flying about would make the largest snowflake melt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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