Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread

[Tyler Durden]

Pretty inevitable conclusion tbf. 

Quite disappointed to have battled so hard to get to this point then we meekly throw it away.

Penalties aren't a lottery despite all the esteemed opinions of the Radio Derby commentators to the contrary. 

[Archie]

Don't really get why we make two subs at the death for them then not to feature in the penos. 

Otherwise a sterling effort in the circumstances

[66DegreesNorth]

Still very proud of the lads and all those at Anfield, fantastic vocal support (as always), Safe journey home !

[cosmic]

Just now, DJFern94 said:

That was an abysmal penalty 

Alright maybe I need a few more levels to classify how bad a penalty is. 

For example, England’s Euro final penalties were bad. The two we missed the other week were bad. Tonight’s were better than those. 

[Reggie Greenwood]

Just now, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Paul Simpson.  Did he miss any.  Idiakez was good unless he was playing for Southampton

Ron never missed one for us. Think Idiakez did a couple 

[Bris Vegas]

Just now, Archie said:

Don't really get why we make two subs at the death for them then not to feature in the penos. 

Otherwise a sterling effort in the circumstances

Waste time, surely? 

[Jourdan]

Given how small and stretched the squad is and given we lost 6-0 on our last visit, that’s a very creditable performance.

We have to take encouragement. Any version of Liverpool at Anfield should beat a top half League 1 side in 90 minutes.

The fact they didn’t speaks volumes.

A win v MK Dons and things are looking up.

 

[hintonsboots]

1 minute ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

That’s were Ron Willems used to put them top right or left top corner. Best penalty taker I’ve seen at the Rams and I include Gladys and Bruce in that.  

Steady on?.

I would have given Wildsmith the 5th pen, sliced into the top left at high speed.

[Van der MoodHoover]

1 minute ago, i-Ram said:

Rosenior would have had us well prepared for penalties.

I didn't realise you could roll penalties 5 yards to your mate standing alongside..... ?

[Reggie Greenwood]

1 minute ago, hintonsboots said:

Steady on?.

I would have given Wildsmith the 5th pen, sliced into the top left at high speed.

Gladys was good but did miss a few. The one v Juve still hurts ?

Edited November 9, 2022 by Reggie Greenwood
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[LazloW]

2 minutes ago, Archie said:

Don't really get why we make two subs at the death for them then not to feature in the penos. 

Otherwise a sterling effort in the circumstances

Time wasting to get to penalties?

[Carl Sagan]

7 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Lad stepped up we don’t know if the others didn’t 

The science of taking penalties decrees you pick your penalty takers in advance and stick to that. You do statistically worse if you you ask people "who fancies it?" and then go with whoever steps up. I hope and expect Warne will know that. And despite Dobbin being such a poor finisher in open play, maybe he's excellent at taking pens in training? 

[InstaRam]

Penalties just isn't our thing I guess. Had a season with Wilson when one could be quite confident but now we are back to our usual selfs. Great overal performance though and not the worst way to exit this cup I guess.

 

COYR

[DJFern94]

3 minutes ago, cosmic said:

Alright maybe I need a few more levels to classify how bad a penalty is. 

For example, England’s Euro final penalties were bad. The two we missed the other week were bad. Tonight’s were better than those. 

I feel like if you had a scale of great to awful penalties, ranked 1-10, those 3 we had saved would be a 4.5

I mean they atleast hit the target.

Edited November 9, 2022 by DJFern94

[Archie]

2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Waste time, surely? 

Then make them separately if that's the case. 

[Kernow]

It seems like it was a great day out and a honourable performance. With the Torquay replay, not having another game isn’t the worst thing.

We’re also going to set a record for the most penalties faced in one season, surely. Two shootouts and about 65 conceded in the league, we must be close already.

[JPRamFan]

Really encouraged after that performance, hopefully take that into the league now and push on.

[Bris Vegas]

1 minute ago, cosmic said:

Alright maybe I need a few more levels to classify how bad a penalty is. 

For example, England’s Euro final penalties were bad. The two we missed the other week were bad. Tonight’s were better than those. 

A penalty is a an awful one if you miss the target, or whether the keeper can actually wait for the player to shoot and still save it. Firmino’s penalty was the worst of the night.

But ultimately, from 12 yards, it’s a poor penalty if the keeper saves it by guess the right way. Either it hasn’t been hit accurate enough in terms of of the corner, or it hasn’t been hit hard enough.

If a player can pass the ball to feet from 12 yards without any problem, it’s clearly a mental issue if they can’t hit it within two yards of the post when aiming for a corner.

Id rather just see players hit it high. Yeah one might balloon over. But how many high penalties are actually saved by the goalkeeper? Not many at all. Even if it’s down the middle, anywhere near head height is going in.

[SillyBilly]

Fair play to Fozzy for stepping up again but 2 misses in 2 suggests someone else needs to have bigger balls next time around. Can't blame Dobbin either, if there are better peno takers than him then they bottled it.

Really encouraging night overall, the fact it hurts to lose is a credit to the lads.

Edited November 9, 2022 by SillyBilly

[Magicman]

11 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Why am I not surprised?! ? 

Dobbin, Forsyth and Hourihane all had their penalties SAVED. How do you know it was a case of “letting” him take one? Maybe he was best in training, maybe he put his hand up when the others didn’t. Lay off the kid. 

He misses chances every game and does not add anything but pace .