Sparkle Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: Should have come back to play for us after the World Cup. Very disappointed he didn't. I'd have thought that would have made a big difference to our finishing position, even if we'd never have caught the top 2 considering what they ended up with. But I'd happily see him turning out next season, as we will need consistent quality to make the automatics. I am sure it would have helped if he had returned but contracts are signed so that’s it really - still our player unless someone buys him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I understand why he doesn't want to plays in L1. I think our position should be that he plays in L1 for us next season or someone puts some cash on the table, 2-3m would do (we have to be realistic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: I understand why he doesn't want to plays in L1. I think our position should be that he plays in L1 for us next season or someone puts some cash on the table, 2-3m would do (we have to be realistic) Quite frankly, he needs a run of good form in League One if he's ever going to rebuild the potential he showed when there before. I don't know whether he's up for it, though. Seems to have an higher opinion of himself than others do. CBRammette, Ram-Alf, jimtastic56 and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Woodley Ram said: I understand why he doesn't want to plays in L1. I think our position should be that he plays in L1 for us next season or someone puts some cash on the table, 2-3m would do (we have to be realistic) Honestly think that's massively optimistic. Lucky to get £1m with his injury record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: Honestly think that's massively optimistic. Lucky to get £1m with his injury record. 35 games this season at Birmingham... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatRam Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Honestly thought he would make a mid table prem player. Brilliant player but injuries have ruined any chance of us getting a decent fee for him. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I'll expect a cancelled contract agreed by both parties and a move abroad, A poor WC then playing for a 2nd rate Championship side has only cheapened his worth...thanks for the equaliser against Brum tho Kristian 👍 therealhantsram and angieram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Still the strangest signing we have made in a longtime - extremely expensive transfer fee with associated high wages at a time following a Wembley failure when every man and his dog knew we had serious financial difficulties - it’s not that we particularly needed someone at that cost in that position - sure I could have understood spending all that money on 6 good players or a extremely good centre forward. Yet the Derby county bad luck continued with him being fairly quickly seriously injured as we exploded financially. jimtastic56 and Rammy03 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, CodnorRam said: Honestly thought he would make a mid table prem player. Brilliant player but injuries have ruined any chance of us getting a decent fee for him. I think brilliant is over-egging it a bit. He’s a tidy player with some class who looked good in our team, surrounded as he was, by mediocrity. If he could stay fit for a season he’d be a major asset to a championship club. But he strikes me as someone who is always going to have an injury a game, whether that’s a nose bleed, a turned ankle or something more serious. Like many others, we have to let him go and move on. The squad we rate so highly from our hearts may not be one which finds success. Players come and players go. Warne’s Derby next season will be a very different one. therealhantsram, jimtastic56, Caerphilly Ram and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 37 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Still the strangest signing we have made in a longtime - extremely expensive transfer fee with associated high wages at a time following a Wembley failure when every man and his dog knew we had serious financial difficulties - it’s not that we particularly needed someone at that cost in that position - sure I could have understood spending all that money on 6 good players or a extremely good centre forward. Yet the Derby county bad luck continued with him being fairly quickly seriously injured as we exploded financially. I seem to remember our original interest was a loan for which we'd pay a fee. The logic in the purchase was splitting the purchase over the length of the contract and using our unique amortisation policy meant a low FFP cost in year 1. We also had an asset we could sell or get us promoted. Unfortunately his injuries knackered this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gladram said: I seem to remember our original interest was a loan for which we'd pay a fee. The logic in the purchase was splitting the purchase over the length of the contract and using our unique amortisation policy meant a low FFP cost in year 1. We also had an asset we could sell or get us promoted. Unfortunately his injuries knackered this. The sooner we can get rid and get him of our wage bill the better. jimtastic56 and WystonRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: Still the strangest signing we have made in a longtime - extremely expensive transfer fee with associated high wages at a time following a Wembley failure when every man and his dog knew we had serious financial difficulties - it’s not that we particularly needed someone at that cost in that position - sure I could have understood spending all that money on 6 good players or a extremely good centre forward. Yet the Derby county bad luck continued with him being fairly quickly seriously injured as we exploded financially. Arsenal ripped us off. They knew full well was made of glass jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: it’s not that we particularly needed someone at that cost in that position At the time we were all desperate for a CDM actually. We'd been struggling in our chosen 4-3-3 formation since Thorne left and saw Bielik as the natural replacement. Little did we know the only place he'd match Thorne's contribution was on the treatment table. jimtastic56, Carnero, May Contain Nuts and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: At the time we were all desperate for a CDM actually. We'd been struggling in our chosen 4-3-3 formation since Thorne left and saw Bielik as the natural replacement. Little did we know the only place he'd match Thorne's contribution was on the treatment table. Yeah this. He was the type of player we needed in midfield and was certainly on the up ability-wise. Sadly, we overpaid and didn’t know what was coming injury wise. Despite him having a bit of a history with more moderate injuries, there didn’t seem to be anything that suggested he’d be prone to what he’s had since he joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Yeah this. He was the type of player we needed in midfield and was certainly on the up ability-wise. Sadly, we overpaid and didn’t know what was coming injury wise. Despite him having a bit of a history with more moderate injuries, there didn’t seem to be anything that suggested he’d be prone to what he’s had since he joined us. Eustace did a pretty good job and he didn't cost anywhere near as much! Another Mel purchase, probably been out on the town and met the Gooners owners. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 On 08/05/2023 at 17:29, jimtastic56 said: Looks like Brum have been bought by Wagner. They should now take Beilik off our hands . Warne could bring in 3 players with the £25k a week saved. that sounds terrible. Are the players all going to be shipped off to the front lines in the Ukraine? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Krystian’s done with Brum then. Got his Derby shorts back out the drawer. RoyMac5, Carl Sagan, Rammy03 and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberram Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Thought it was Robocop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 11/05/2023 at 09:19, angieram said: Quite frankly, he needs a run of good form in League One if he's ever going to rebuild the potential he showed when there before. I don't know whether he's up for it, though. Seems to have an higher opinion of himself than others do. Think you're a bit wide of the mark here. He's played over 30 games in a Championship team who's manager raves about him and would love to sign him. Bielik is ambitious and wants to play in the Premier League, but I don't think there's anything arrogant about the way he has gone about it. His national manager said he would only play for Poland if playing at Championship level. I'd be surprised if there were many thought he needs to drop down to League One to prove himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, Kernow said: Krystian’s done with Brum then. Got his Derby shorts back out the drawer. Far too many trip hazards in that gym! As for Prem - he is 5 yards too slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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