Caerphilly Ram Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I don’t understand the idea that the bidders are waiting to see which league we’re in with respect to the money they have to pay. Hasn’t all the info about the money needed to buy the club been about the debts and potentially the stadium? So it’s always going to be the same figure regardless of league? Maybe the league we’re in makes us less viable as a purchase? My understanding is that whoever buys the club is bidding to service the outstanding debts to HMRC, football creditors and then all other creditors; the stadium is a further complication as it either needs to be bought/rented from Morris to service the MSD loan OR Morris has to gift it to the club and sorts that particular debt himself. There’s not been a figure given for the “club” as an overall entity has there? I’m not trying to stir it up so if anyone is able to clarify it succinctly without me having to trawl back through months of info that would be most welcome. atherstoneram, angieram and Crewton 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S8TY Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) Also some out of contract players are being denied oppurtunity to earn a few quid until end of season by not being allowed to sign for us there is no way the EFl have helped us …Mel got us in this mess but he’s gone …EFL should be helping us but putting out statements that they are “disappointed” that we won our case was showing there true colours and they are not fit for purpose Edited March 3, 2022 by S8TY LeedsCityRam, RedSox, Indyram and 10 others 6 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 I think some people are too readily believing the statements made by the EFL. The funding wasn’t a problem, clearly there is still some stuff to resolve, but there are various people out there saying it’s close, Ed Dawes mentioned an ex-EFL Board member and an championship chief exec told him it’s close and it looks like Mike Ashley, yet the EFL still banging on about significant hurdles to overcome. Quantuma can improve comms to fans but this week of negativity has been 100% created by the EFL, continuing their propaganda war further deflecting away from their appalling handling of this situation and deflecting away from the actions of Steve Gibson. Zag zig, Kathcairns, r_wilcockson and 12 others 8 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Wonder if we will get to a 1000 pages before the deal is done? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, S8TY said: Also some out of contract players are being denied oppurtunity to earn a few quid until end of season by not being allowed to sign for us there is no way the EFl have helped us …Mel got us in this mess but he’s gone …EFL should be helping us but putting out statements that they are “disappointed” that we won our case was showing there true colours and they are bit fit for purpose They are not going to let us sign out of contract players while the administrators are trying to get the finances under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, oomarkwright said: Wonder if we will get to a 1000 pages before the deal is done? ? or 2000 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, oomarkwright said: Wonder if we will get to a 1000 pages before the deal is done? ? And the rest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Can you imagine the uproar if they did not let us finish the season. Some clubs getting points took off them and others getting them back. But do'nt worry, will get it all heaped on us next season, why liquidate us now when they can do it in may. 2 Things Kath 1, Q will liquidate us if there's no loot left, They'll inform the EFL who will withdraw our Golden ticket. 2, PB comes in with a lower offer as we're now relegated, PB says creditors getting less than the 25% set by the EFL, EFL then give us -15 points. Plus extras as they see fit ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Just now, Unlucky Alf said: 2 Things Kath 1, Q will liquidate us if there's no loot left, They'll inform the EFL who will withdraw our Golden ticket. 2, PB comes in with a lower offer as we're now relegated, PB says creditors getting less than the 25% set by the EFL, EFL then give us -15 points. Plus extras as they see fit ?♂️ Does 1) follow 2) or two different scenarios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, oomarkwright said: Wonder if we will get to a 1000 pages before the deal is done? ? Feels like 1000yrs may be a more realistic target. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The EFL has been desperate to position themselves as the good guys ever since the spotlight started to shine on them in jan and they and boro started to get a lot of bad press. Their comms strategy is seemingly pretty transparent and desperate - to make everyone but themselves look bad. I’m not saying the admins are doing the greatest job in the world but the EFL has released 3 statements this week when no one asked for or needed the first two. Indy, Derby4Me, uttoxram75 and 7 others 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBrian Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Can you imagine the uproar if they did not let us finish the season. Some clubs getting points took off them and others getting them back. But do'nt worry, will get it all heaped on us next season, why liquidate us now when they can do it in may. Doubt if there would be an uproar only delight! for Wayne said no one wants us in the championship however if it did happen who would be sueing who, for those who lost to Derby early in the season could claim we had a stronger team then than now, and once again 1 point could be all the difference, not to worry EFL will have changed the rules by then NO club can sue another club, happy days!!! Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Still confident of a PB announcement by the end of the week @Barrytheanon ? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: I don’t understand the idea that the bidders are waiting to see which league we’re in with respect to the money they have to pay. Hasn’t all the info about the money needed to buy the club been about the debts and potentially the stadium? So it’s always going to be the same figure regardless of league? Maybe the league we’re in makes us less viable as a purchase? My understanding is that whoever buys the club is bidding to service the outstanding debts to HMRC, football creditors and then all other creditors; the stadium is a further complication as it either needs to be bought/rented from Morris to service the MSD loan OR Morris has to gift it to the club and sorts that particular debt himself. There’s not been a figure given for the “club” as an overall entity has there? I’m not trying to stir it up so if anyone is able to clarify it succinctly without me having to trawl back through months of info that would be most welcome. This is just an old timers take on things...me When we were 5 points behind Reading it looked like the great escape was on, Even TV pundits were applauding our efforts, Now with 4 defeats in 5 it's looking a very bigger ask, 11 games, 8 points behind Reading. I would have thought the bidders were aware of what i've posted above, I've read posts on here that MA was all but confirmed on Friday as the PB...but summat went pearshaped, Fact or Fiction...I do not know. If the reason bidders are waiting for relegation to be confirmed then TV money will be severely reduced, Making us a less atractive purchase on the football market, I'm sure this was factered in their thoughts, But it's looking more of a reality now than it was at the end of January. Nothing factual just thoughts? TomTom92 and Miggins 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said: Does 1) follow 2) or two different scenarios? Two different scenarios One we go Bang, The other we go Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Carnero said: Still confident of a PB announcement by the end of the week @Barrytheanon ? ? Give him chance to set up his tombola containing 12 possible outcomes.? Derby4Me and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Carnero said: Still confident of a PB announcement by the end of the week @Barrytheanon ? ? Well I just heard on radio derby have enough money to last the season and we are able to trade again. Wsm-ram and Nishfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: This is just an old timers take on things...me When we were 5 points behind Reading it looked like the great escape was on, Even TV pundits were applauding our efforts, Now with 4 defeats in 5 it's looking a very bigger ask, 11 games, 8 points behind Reading. I would have thought the bidders were aware of what i've posted above, I've read posts on here that MA was all but confirmed on Friday as the PB...but summat went pearshaped, Fact or Fiction...I do not know. If the reason bidders are waiting for relegation to be confirmed then TV money will be severely reduced, Making us a less atractive purchase on the football market, I'm sure this was factered in their thoughts, But it's looking more of a reality now than it was at the end of January. Nothing factual just thoughts? Come on lads we can still do this we might as well go for like we did early on in the season. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: and we are able to trade again. The EFL aren't going to let us sign anyone. Don't get your hopes up. Derby4Me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 The main thing at the moment would be to allow us to give our own players a new contract. SaffyRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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