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So... I went to the shop shortly after the announcement to grab some 'celebration juice' for tonight and met a guy in a Derby shirt holding a 4 pack of Bud and asked him if he was celebrating as

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I haven't got time to mop up sexist comments,  I am too busy making cups of tea for the other mods! 

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29 minutes ago, hintonsboots said:

If they were totally anonymous how does Nixon know about it ?

Think he just wants his name out the papers mate. Nobody saying it's totally anonymous as if it were, how would Quantuma know who the bid came from ?

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17 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Ask Nixon if you dare! ?

Genuinely tempted but he'll only block me for asking leading questions and I actually quite like seeing his monosyllabic, vague answers that can easily be interpreted two ways should the inference for the original post be proven wrong.  To his credit it's quite a skill.  

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2 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said:

Appleby's tenure was not a success and we were not run in a fiscally prudent way, here are the numbers

2008 a year when we received a parachute payment - Profit of £1.76million

2009  Loss of £14.9 million

2010 Loss of £2.16 million

2011 Loss of £7.67 million

2012 Loss of £7.93 million

2013 Loss of £7.06 million

2014 Loss of £7.04 million

2015 Loss of £10.06 million

So in total during Appleby's leadership there were cumulative losses of £55 million, how is that the best financial health of the Rams in the modern era?

GSE pulled out because they wouldn't or couldn't keep bank rolling the losses and if El Presidente Sam Rush, (who sacked the manager who reduced the payroll by over 60% and signed some outstanding players for peanuts) ever gets near the club again he would probably complete the destruction of the club.

History always repeats itself

All true except I think those losses are exactly what you get if you own a mildly ambitious championship club whoever you are. In short the only business men who own them are either gambling on the prem or happy with the prestige and local fame the hobby of owning a club gives them. It has to change and I think it will. Covid and a financial reset may well see the mad wages fall to more sensible levels. In the end it’s the wages .. We could comfortably be a business with a 20 odd million turnover that would happily support its none playing staff and the mechanics of a well supported football club, but once you start paying footballers wages, conservatively  .. let’s say 5 top boys on 700k a year (3.5 million ) Then another 15  on 400 k  a year (6.0 million)  and another 20 on 250k ( 5.0 million ) then it all starts to go wrong. You’re at 14.5 million straight from your total sales of 20 odd. It just doesn’t work. 
 

You simply have to make profits on player sales or have a very rich owner ( or parachute payments ! ) 

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So sick of our club being the click-fodder subject of these creepy media sub-sleuths with motley EFL connections, posting enigmatic and provocative claptrap, month-on-month.

It will be a relief when these slugs move on to the next crisis club.

Maybe they should trawl the debts and dodges of such as Everton, Man Citeh and the European Super-League contenders, who attract no financial penalties for the their serial transgressions.

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1 hour ago, I know nuffin said:

We could have done a Brentford but the administrators gave they away for next to nothing 

What you actually mean is that we could have done a brentford, but instead we followed the Mel Morris model of piddle all your money away as quickly as possible. Administrators need to keep the lights on somehow and nobody is going to bid big when we are in administration.

Brentford don't even have a traditional academy like us anyway. 

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Let’s be right here. Whoever does this deal it’s a stinking deal. Mel has made us practically unsellable. Personal view can’t see any bid that’s not going to trigger further points deductions but could be wrong on that. Earlier on in the process I accepted League 1 and -15 as likely outcome based on what the likes of Krasner were saying. CK gave me hope that could be avoided until he injured himself kicking tyres. 

That being said from what I’ve been told (which isn’t much) is that the process is now moving very quickly, the focus is very much on the end game and parties are showing their hand, ie. no more posturing which means we should hopefully be through this saga soon. Might also explain why people are coming in and dropping out. I think we know who the main players are and they haven’t really changed.

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12 minutes ago, Woodypecker said:

So sick of our club being the click-fodder subject of these creepy media sub-sleuths with motley EFL connections, posting enigmatic and provocative claptrap, month-on-month.

It will be a relief when these slugs move on to the next crisis club.

Maybe they should trawl the debts and dodges of such as Everton, Man Citeh and the European Super-League contenders, who attract no financial penalties for the their serial transgressions.

Agreed, but unfortunately it's the best we've got a lot of the time.

Rick Parry should be making Q give honest updates to us in terms of timescales as part of allowing us to continue to exist by our fingernails in the EFL....even if it is telling us stuff is not going to happen.

I think if we knew nothing will be announced this week we could get on with some work rather than living on here, refreshing Nixon's twitter and moaning at his cryptic tweets.....when we know there's likely to be a cryptic tweet every time we refresh the bloody thing.

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1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said:

Being lucky would have been just that, lucky.  A get out of jail free card. 

I think we can probably all agree the actual biggest mistake is signing the wrong players for too high prices (we've been through the list a million times on here already, so no need to do it again).  But I think the more subtle and interesting mistake is that we held on to players for too long.  We should never have convinced Bryson to stay when Burnley wanted him, for example.  The same with Keogh, Martin, and probably a lot more.  We ended up renewing their contracts and paying near-premier league salaries while we were in the championship.  And then most of them left for free.  If you look at Brentford, they do the opposite - they've moved on Watkins, Benrahma, Maupay and so on, and then use that money to go and get the next guy, while covering any overspend at the same time.

Martin wasn't the same player when he got that new McClaren deal.  Probably some of that was fitness due his gastric issues to be fair but a ridiculous contract with a wage increase.  Keogh was here too long and had far to much influence.  I think Bryson earned a contract as he was fantastic the year before but 5 yrs probably 1 too many.  Players get injured like he did and aren't quite the same.  The same could be said for Hughes who lost movement and value after his knee injury.  Forsyth should have gone 5 years ago. The biggest waste of money for me was Bent on a 1.6 million salary and then back for another year when we thought he'd gone, Blackman on a 4 year deal after the only 10 good games in his career - hope he enjoyed his 4 year holiday around Spain, Turkey etc,  Butterfield at 4 million that Boro effectivly let go on a free 12 months before,  Jozefzoon at 2.7 - another 10 game wonder,   25 k a week for 4 years for a 31 year old Anya who didn't want to play football anymore,  and 5 million on a very average Waghorn who Rangers let go for 250k the previous summer. 

Thing is look down the road at Forest.  They spent about 8 million quid on 3 midfielders last year who didn't get a game and gave Colback a reported 40 k a week after Newcastle wouldn't match their wage offer and what happened to the 13.5 million wonderkid.  Boro spent 31 million on three strikers that all went on frees in one summer.  There all at it.  I'd think the only year we clearly went crazy was when we brought in Clement the new Alex Ferguson.  We're still paying for that now.

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