Gaspode Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Oh no they didn't Bah Humbug! you grumpy bugger Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Eatonram said: As stated by Kirchener it would appear that bids are are still increasing even as of yesterday. To me this means even his latest bid may not be as high as others in the process. As often stated the admins are required to secure the best deal for creditors which in simple terms will be the highest bid. Seems likely an auction is still going on and that means bidders will reach their maximum and then drop out. Perhaps clutching at straws I don’t know. Don't want to brag but................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: To be fair though not many fans (including myself) knew the damage Mel was causing. No one knew of different accountancy principles, huge unpaid HMRC bills, unsustainable wages. He talked about FFP a lot at least in last couple of seasons (too late) but I always thought the club would be aware of running the business with those constraints. The HMRC debt size was shocking. I work in tax and couldnt believe it had been allowed to accrue to such a huge figure. TheresOnlyWanChope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Just now, CBRammette said: The HMRC debt size was shocking. I work in tax and couldnt believe it had been allowed to accrue to such a huge figure. Was it only possible due to emergency measures brought in because of Covid? I know you could defer paying any VAT due for quite a few months, (maybe even a year)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Oh yes they did I think you need to pit these panto arguments behiiiiind youuuu Gaspode 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Was it only possible due to emergency measures brought in because of Covid? I know you could defer paying any VAT due for quite a few months, (maybe even a year)? I've no idea. I understood we had furloughed staff. There were various reliefs and relaxations. At work we helped clients with furlough claims and HMRC were on to them very quickly threatening to claw back JRS claim amounts if any payment plan payments or monthly PAYE/NIC even slightly late notwithstanding reliefs. I've never really understand the size of the debt and apparently having staff on furlough. Have always wondered if debt includes JRS clawback amounts. Guess we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Soooo... it looks like MM isn't being as generous with his exit strategy as first hoped the bidders have been asked for more money Kirchener and 1 other has complied with this Kirchener thinks this will seal preferred bidder status when the admins state this is still open, he throws his dummy out of the pram the admins then say preferred bidder status is imminent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Curtains said: On Gadsby and Appleby . Please save our great club . I will be forever grateful . I keep thinking of the video of Appleby talking about how much his wife loved us and crying at Wembley I think. That is what I am hanging all of my hopes on - Mrs Appleby applying the pressure as only a wife can i-Ram, Curtains, RoyMac5 and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, CBRammette said: I keep thinking of the video of Appleby talking about how much his wife loved us and crying at Wembley I think. That is what I am hanging all of my hopes on - Mrs Appleby applying the pressure as only a wife can Withdrawal of nocturnal perks? Derby4Me and CBRammette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 “Imminently” I despise that word, how many times as fans have we been told “imminently” in the last 2 years only for this “imminent” info / announcement to never materialise. The Admins have got to give us something soon, they’ve already missed several deadlines and I’m sure most will interpret “imminently” as today. They certainly won’t be doing themselves any favours if further info isn’t forthcoming at some point today. If something doesn’t happen I can see this becoming pretty toxic (as if it isn’t enough already) rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Gerry Daly said: Needs to get some exercise and cut down on the calories so he doesn't need such a big one Parklife! rynny, May Contain Nuts, ThePrisoner and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 10 minutes ago, CBRammette said: I've no idea. I understood we had furloughed staff. There were various reliefs and relaxations. At work we helped clients with furlough claims and HMRC were on to them very quickly threatening to claw back JRS claim amounts if any payment plan payments or monthly PAYE/NIC even slightly late notwithstanding reliefs. I've never really understand the size of the debt and apparently having staff on furlough. Have always wondered if debt includes JRS clawback amounts. Guess we will never know. We didn’t/couldn’t furlough playing staff though could we? Presumably PAYE/NIC was still due for them. PAYE/NIC on staff could that be furloughed would have been a drop in the ocean in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Derbados said: “Imminently” I despise that word, how many times as fans have we been told “imminently” in the last 2 years only for this “imminent” info / announcement to never materialise. The Admins have got to give us something soon, they’ve already missed several deadlines and I’m sure most will interpret “imminently” as today. They certainly won’t be doing themselves any favours if further info isn’t forthcoming at some point today. If something doesn’t happen I can see this becoming pretty toxic (as if it isn’t enough already) They haven’t missed any actual “deadlines” have they? Just the ambitious “expectations” have proved a little too ambitious. Chester40 and archram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Tamworthram said: They haven’t missed any actual “deadlines” have they? Just the ambitious “expectations” have proved a little too ambitious. Fair point Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Foxy Ram, Zag zig, May Contain Nuts and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 David Tepper? Mike Ashley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 4 hours ago, sage said: Always struck me as a desperate media tart from day one. Leaves the path open to the grown ups now. Takes one to know one eh mate.... ? Chester40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: 7 figures more? If Kirchner bid £60m does this mean £61,000,000 or 600,000,000,000,000? ? Ramarena, Andicis, ThePrisoner and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 21 minutes ago, sage said: Withdrawal of nocturnal perks? Lets hope so!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Ram Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 Imminent news, I'm like - refresh, refresh !! IslandExile and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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