Rammy03 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 We can do this willipa, Carnero, Ramslad1992 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 200 Hail Mary's 100 Our Fathers and self flagellation outside Pride Park wouldn't be enough Edited September 20, 2021 by Tyler Durden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: We can do this Roos could have shown more passion there… RadioactiveWaste, Kathcairns and AbuDerbyDave 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said: Roos could have shown more passion there… thought he went to punch the black and white pole but missed.....? Jourdan, RadioactiveWaste and Ramslad1992 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: thought he went to punch the black and white pole but missed.....? Joz? archram and Van der MoodHoover 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ramslad1992 said: Roos could have shown more passion there… If only he was that butch when coming for a cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Tombo said: We will see players sold in Jan, but bear in mind that it makes no financial sense to just go "Jason Knight - 100k, Sibley - £200k, Bird- £200k" and get them gone dirt cheap. Yes it will be low figures, yes we would get more in normal circumstances, but the administrators aren't stupid. We need money now more than ever, we'll get okayish money for them. They won't sell the whole squad for peanuts, only make a tiny dent in the debt, and then have to fold the club. They'll work with the footballing people at the club and do their own market research to do the right thing I don't really know how all of administration works. If someone comes in and buys the club quickly before January, why would we need to sell players still? Chris_Martin, Rammy03 and Tamworthram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said: I don't really know how all of administration works. If someone comes in and buys the club quickly before January, why would we need to sell players still? If we're no longer in administration and under new ownership before the window, then we *might* not have to, but it'll depend on what the new owners are intending to do and if there's any kind of restrictions (the EFL "Business plan") on them. If we're still in adminstration, it's fire sale of everyone with value and nothing anyone can do about it, because the club is still bust and administeators are trying to get the creditors some of their money back. DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: The idea that we are safe from losing players until January isn't strictly true. If the administrators come in and the DCFC bank account is empty, and we can't find a buyer VERY quickly, then guess what? Asset stripping time. Get players off the books to reduce outgoings by any means necessary. Far worse than losing people for fees (even rubbish fees) in January, we might end up in a position where we are cutting deals to offload players simply to get wages off the books and backfilling the team with actual children. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Can roony but the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: If we're no longer in administration and under new ownership before the window, then we *might* not have to, but it'll depend on what the new owners are intending to do and if there's any kind of restrictions (the EFL "Business plan") on them. If we're still in adminstration, it's fire sale of everyone with value and nothing anyone can do about it, because the club is still bust and administeators are trying to get the creditors some of their money back. True but a player may well say no thanks I am not signing for anyone - that said most of them are out of contract next summer anyway and may profit by not leaving in January r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sparkle said: True but a player may well say no thanks I am not signing for anyone - that said most of them are out of contract next summer anyway and may profit by not leaving in January That is a good point, you can't force someone to sign a new contract with a different employer. I don't really see that being an issue given the circumstances, but it is a point well made. Sparkle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Can roony but the club although rooney is a very rich man i doubt he has 100s of millions to lob at a football club Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Alpha said: That's my worry. I used to go to football for the tribal pride, the enjoyment of the actual sport and a release of tension to just have a good time. Winning enhances that. Losing dampens the spirit. But still whatever the results I'd be there next week loud and proud. Really reaching the PL was only really a goal because it meant more wins, more celebrations, more ammo to throw at other fans. It was never about the actual league and higher costs to follow I reckon if you still have the football bug then you're going to enjoy all that the PL offers in League 1 or 2 or whatever. It will still be your Derby on the pitch with you in the stands. Does it really matter if the opponents are Man City or Man sfield? The real worry is that the club will be gone or left soulless and you know nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon than watching Premier League scores roll in Not at all bothered by being in or out of the PL. RadioactiveWaste and Alph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 The soul will always be there… this is one of the worst times being a fan in my lifetime and all I can think of is us as fans, as a club can take on anybody. I don’t care if we are playing Man City or Matlock… as long as there’s a Derby county I’ll support them no matter what. duck the EFL, duck Mel, duck everyone but our wonderful club. I’ve been a supporter for 25 years and I’ll be a supporter as long as there’s a club to support. bring on the point deduction! We will have a right laugh in league one and will still finish above forest this year! COYR!! ? Rammy03 and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted September 21, 2021 Author Share Posted September 21, 2021 I spoke with a friend who is an insolvency lawyer last night, though he has never been a lead Administrator on anything of any size. What he did suggest was that many Administrators look for a buyer who will support the administration period over a buyer who offers the biggest purchase pot. In other words, if prospective buyer A offers £10m for the business, but will put £500k a month in per month immediately to cover ongoing running costs shortfalls, that is far more likely to succeed than buyer B who would pay £15m but only at the completion of a successful sale. I suppose it is the old 'bird in the hand' analogy playing out with big numbers. r_wilcockson and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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