Reggie Greenwood Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: One way or another it will be good to put an end to it and move on… Not with 9 points it wouldn’t. Smacks of EFL trying to save face and trying to get us to agree to something to move on. jimtastic56, Wsm-ram, therealhantsram and 14 others 9 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: You may well be correct, and in return I am giving it about 10 months until you post something positive about the manager.. You'll be losing that bet matey. @Tyler Durden's been moaning non-stop for a year already. He could probably do an entire decade if he wanted. '10 months'!!!! Legend has it, the man's waited longer than that for a taxi. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, 86 Hair Islands said: You'll be losing that bet matey. @Tyler Durden's been moaning non-stop for a year already. He could probably do an entire decade if he wanted. '10 months'!!!! Legend has it, the man's waited longer than that for a taxi. Am sure there's some sort of compliment buried in there somewhere ? Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Not with 9 points it wouldn’t. Smacks of EFL trying to save face and trying to get us to agree to something to move on. I read it as 9 points being the EFLs opening stance. DCFC obviously starting with "we've done nothing wrong" So at a guess we'll end up between 3-6 deduction with more suspended. Presumably also we are going to flat out refuse any kind of further EFL say in our business dealings. Costs have been cut is subsequent years so it's not really like resolving a current overspend. FlyBritishMidland, r_wilcockson, Andicis and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, RadioactiveWaste said: I read it as 9 points being the EFLs opening stance. DCFC obviously starting with "we've done nothing wrong" So at a guess we'll end up between 3-6 deduction with more suspended. Presumably also we are going to flat out refuse any kind of further EFL say in our business dealings. Costs have been cut is subsequent years so it's not really like resolving a current overspend. It stinks but as I’ve said elsewhere I can understand the reasoning especially if a take over is near RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 9 points is ludicrous and unjust. It sounds like a sure way to try an relegate us. Surley a 3 or a 6 point (inline with Sheffield Wednesday's deduction) is more reasonable? eezzeetiger, jimtastic56 and strawhillram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) I don't get to what it relates? This quote mentions agreeing a punishment but for what and why?! No mention of what the P&S might be. "Under pressure from rival Championship clubs, the EFL is pushing for Derby to be punished and it is understood that a deduction of 12 points – nine points plus a suspended three points – and an imposed business plan has been discussed, but is yet to be agreed." "The question now is whether Mel Morris, the Derby owner, reluctantly accepts the EFL’s proposed punishment or, as expected, challenges it. Derby have always maintained they did not seek any competitive advantage with their amortisation policy." It's talking about the amortisation - they cannot do us for that again surely. They could only do us for the restated P&S being over limits? Edited August 26, 2021 by RoyMac5 Rich84, Carl Sagan, The Scarlet Pimpernel and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) If we are to accept a points deduction to get things moving ahead again, then 3 points is the most i’d begrudgingly accept. It should be none, but if the alternative is dragging this out then the small hit might be worth it to bring an end to this shambles. Edited August 26, 2021 by Ramarena Louby, Kathcairns, Wsm-ram and 10 others 2 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted August 26, 2021 Author Share Posted August 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, ramswriter podcast said: No disrespect but it has said that for a while I’m sure plus if you look in to filing the last accounts filed were 2018 With the greatest of respect and my OCD, until very recently it stated 2020 accounts were overdue as well, that has now been removed. To my mind this makes lots of sense as the 2019 accounts will be part of the P&S calculations whereas by 2020 overheads were under better control. Finally my assumption is because of the timelag between filing and public availability for viewing there will now be a gap of 6-10 days, due to civil servants working from home etc. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 The piece is 'titled' "After being fined £100,000, Derby close to an agreement with EFL over punishment for breaches of financial regulations." What breaches? The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramswriter podcast Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: One way or another it will be good to put an end to it and move on… Agree it has to end at some point soon Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramswriter podcast Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: The piece is 'titled' "After being fined £100,000, Derby close to an agreement with EFL over punishment for breaches of financial regulations." What breaches? Ffp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Just now, Ramarena said: If we are to accept a points deduction to get things moving ahead again, then 3 points is the most is begrudgingly accept. It should be none but if the alternative is dragging this out then the small hit might be worth it to bring an end to this shambles. Exactly, we need to weigh it up and think what would be best. If we were to take 3 points but be able to end the saga and sign players, we'd definitely fancy our chances of staying in the division. If we were to take a 9 point penalty, I think it would be a difficult task to stay up even if we could sign more players. DCFC1388, Ramarena, strawhillram and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Remember when articles came out saying we were about to get 21 points deductions - it feels again like these are similar. Sounds abit two and two together rather than concrete evidence that this is the scenario. Rammy03 and RadioactiveWaste 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ramswriter podcast said: Ffp? How do we know that, or is it Percy poo-stirring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramswriter podcast Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: With the greatest of respect and my OCD, until very recently it stated 2020 accounts were overdue as well, that has now been removed. To my mind this makes lots of sense as the 2019 accounts will be part of the P&S calculations whereas by 2020 overheads were under better control. Finally my assumption is because of the timelag between filing and public availability for viewing there will now be a gap of 6-10 days, due to civil servants working from home etc. Ah that makes sense about the 6-10 day gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I’ve got a feeling Forest will sympathise with us and give us the 3 points on Saturday. strawhillram, Ramarena, Chester40 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 CollyerDCFC, Rammy03 and Carl Sagan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Feeling it’ll be -6 points and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 How many of these 'points deduction still possible' headlines did we have before the last appeal? What was the result - a £100k fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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