r_wilcockson Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Must be confident of the signings if they're specifically showing photos of the trialists on the latest training photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 21 hours ago, one_chop said: My gut feeling is Mel is struggling for money, liquid money to pay the wages. Supporting that theory is the fact he (or his company) is allegedly paying MSD interest at 9% pa. Not something you’d do if you have easy access to large dollops of cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Derby Twitter sharing training pics and all of them focused in on the trialists. Top banter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, r_wilcockson said: Must be confident of the signings if they're specifically showing photos of the trialists on the latest training photos. You are applying too much logic there......1 and 1 rarely add up to 2 in debt/Derby county! It also means that they have no where else to go as it stands and we are their best hope of playing any football at all this season. Edited August 5, 2021 by kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Davies wears 33, Jagielka 6, Steerman 16 and Ravel 29. If say those will be signed tomorrow. Carroll has no number. r_wilcockson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 It’s a strange thing isn’t it - Sheffield Wednesday in financial mess given a points deduction get relegated then can sign stacks of players unhindered Derby county - not yet relegated but can sign next to nothing - it can’t be about protecting clubs can it ? Carl Sagan, Hector was the best and RoyMac5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 22 minutes ago, Sparkle said: It’s a strange thing isn’t it - Sheffield Wednesday in financial mess given a points deduction get relegated then can sign stacks of players unhindered Derby county - not yet relegated but can sign next to nothing - it can’t be about protecting clubs can it ? Sheffield Wednesday’s case seems to be different. Their issue appeared to be the sale of their stadium and putting the profits in the wrong yearly account to get away with FFP. They got caught out and received their pubishment via a points deduction. Case closed and they could then go about their business. Derby, on the other hand, have been stringing the ordeal along with several other issues at play. In hindsight, we may have been better off accepting the initial charge and working to recover from it. By fighting tooth and nail, we won the initial battle but we’re looking likely to lose the war. Spanish and Chester40 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, Bris Vegas said: Sheffield Wednesday’s case seems to be different. Their issue appeared to be the sale of their stadium and putting the profits in the wrong yearly account to get away with FFP. They got caught out and received their pubishment via a points deduction. Case closed and they could then go about their business. Derby, on the other hand, have been stringing the ordeal along with several other issues at play. In hindsight, we may have been better off accepting the initial charge and working to recover from it. By fighting tooth and nail, we won the initial battle but we’re looking likely to lose the war. You forgetting there was 4(?) months of unpaid wages which they have points deductions hanging over them as we do? Betty Swollocks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 Not Gregory. Rammy03 and IslandExile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: You forgetting there was 4(?) months of unpaid wages which they have points deductions hanging over them as we do? The suspended points deduction for failing to pay players doesn’t, or at least didn’t, restrict a club from buying players. Besides, I think Wednesday signed a few in July before any talk of suspended points deductions came into play. I don’t think it’s a case of one rule for one, and another rule for another. Ours and Wednesday’s situations are quite different. With the impending issues, and I’m just speculating here, it wouldn’t surprise me if any current delays were down to one party refusing to admit guilt and take responsibility for their actions. Chester40 and atherstoneram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 3 hours ago, angieram said: I wouldn't sign Stearman or Baldock. Carroll marginal. Allsop only if Marshall is going. Totally agree. Need to get 2 CH's in pref before Saturday, so Jags and Davies for me, the rest can wait, although Morrison would be a good addition, despite the fact I like Sibley and he may get game time if RM doesn't sign. If get Mengi in and having Cashin, with Forsyth as cover I don't see us needing Steerman. Need better than Baldock jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: The suspended points deduction for failing to pay players doesn’t, or at least didn’t, restrict a club from buying players. Besides, I think Wednesday signed a few in July before any talk of suspended points deductions came into play. I don’t think it’s a case of one rule for one, and another rule for another. Ours and Wednesday’s situations are quite different. With the impending issues, and I’m just speculating here, it wouldn’t surprise me if any current delays were down to one party refusing to admit guilt and take responsibility for their actions. Except the EFL seem to be making the embargo conditions up as they go along, where did the wage limit come from when everyone was originally quoting £11.5k/week? The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footymum2017 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, r_wilcockson said: Must be confident of the signings if they're specifically showing photos of the trialists on the latest training photos. The cameraman wasn't invited to the meeting last night so doesn't know what's going on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Come on Mel, just one more roboto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction … A contract has run out - yet he is allowed to play in friendlies that have official yellow cards that can be marked to his name in future games. That says to me an out of contract player is by definition allowed to play in any official match … So are we allowed to play players who are willing, on a none contract, match by match basis ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, jono said: Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction … A contract has run out - yet he is allowed to play in friendlies that have official yellow cards that can be marked to his name in future games. That says to me an out of contract player is by definition allowed to play in any official match … So are we allowed to play players who are willing, on a none contract, match by match basis ? Cos the efl make the rules up as they go along to duck us over as much as they can RoyMac5 and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 14 minutes ago, jono said: Can someone explain to me the apparent contradiction … A contract has run out - yet he is allowed to play in friendlies that have official yellow cards that can be marked to his name in future games. That says to me an out of contract player is by definition allowed to play in any official match … So are we allowed to play players who are willing, on a none contract, match by match basis ? I think Sir Humphrey summed it up the clearest: Unfortunately, although the answer is indeed clear, simple, and straightforward, there is some difficulty in justifiably assigning to it the fourth of the epithets you applied to the statement, inasmuch as the precise correlation between the information you communicated and the facts, insofar as they can be determined and demonstrated, is such as to cause epistemological problems, of sufficient magnitude as to lay upon the logical and semantic resources of the English language a heavier burden than they can reasonably be expected to bear. archram, jono, Ram Logan Josh and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, NottsRam77 said: Cos the efl make the rules up as they go along to duck us over as much as they can The thing is … none contract / free agent. and can play for a club, can be penalised in an individual professional capacity for in game transgressions .. QED he can play “officially” logically and legally he can play where he wants for who he wants. .. He isn’t allowed to according to the rules because DCFC are under sanction ? .. urrrm he’s already played for DCFC when that status was present under rules your rules, you accepted that .. precedent gentlemen Any lawyers out there ? Test case ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I'm sure we've sent Messi a contract without any numbers by now on the off chance he gets the idea that he's filling in the numbers not the EFL. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Even though the deadline is midday tomorrow I wouldnt expect the announcements to be before then, the club could easily come out later in the day and say a player has signed & was registered in time to play vs Huddersfield So bare that in mind before everyone lose their heads when nothing is announced at 12 Rammy03 and Carnero 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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