PistoldPete Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It isn't a different issue. What the club spent money on and what it should have spent money on are the same issue. I think the point being given a limited budget we should not have put all our eggs in one basket , but that’s not to say we paid or will pay more than he is worth, just that we are not in a position to spend so much on one player. jimtastic56 and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It isn't a different issue. What the club spent money on and what it should have spent money on are the same issue. Unbelievable value from the players that Wayne got for nothing recently jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Don't remember too many folk complaining about Bielik's transfer fee while he was dragging us up by our bootstraps last season. Perhaps their crystal balls were in need of recalibration? jono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: It isn't a different issue. What the club spent money on and what it should have spent money on are the same issue. Erm... yeah... those are one and the same issue : the different issue is whether the club overpaid for a player of Bieleks quality. His injuries are another issue entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Don't remember too many folk complaining about Bielik's transfer fee while he was dragging us up by our bootstraps last season. Perhaps their crystal balls were in need of recalibration? True yet young clough would have purchased a whole team for Mac one to be successful with for the same expenditure jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Don't remember too many folk complaining about Bielik's transfer fee while he was dragging us up by our bootstraps last season. Perhaps their crystal balls were in need of recalibration? The fact that it isn't being paid is the issue.... jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: The fact that it isn't being paid is the issue.... 2 late payments... nothing current due to be paid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: 2 late payments... nothing current due to be paid... Are we spreading the payment over 20 years ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Are we spreading the payment over 20 years ? No the fee quoted is probably dependent upon things which won’t happen, like us getting to the Prem. and maybe appearances and he hasn’t appeared much except in the surgery. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Are we spreading the payment over 20 years ? All evidence so far says £500k payments twice a year for 5 years (£2m down, £500k due end of Dec or start of Jan). The rest most likely being based on appearances or promotion. lrm14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Kristian and Colin back in a couple of games time will hopefully gives us much more of a cutting edge. If they can stay fit then we have no obvious weaknesses in our first eleven. We will be well covered in defence and in midfield but short of one striker and a couple of wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Rampage said: Kristian and Colin back for a couple of games FTFY, sadly. Chester40, jimtastic56, SKRam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, GboroRam said: FTFY, sadly. I meant to say- in a couple of games time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Rampage said: Kristian and Colin back in a couple of games time will hopefully gives us much more of a cutting edge. If they can stay fit then we have no obvious weaknesses in our first eleven. We will be well covered in defence and in midfield but short of one striker and a couple of wingers Why would either play give us more of a cutting edge? Bielik is a fantastic player who may contribute a couple of goals, but he is ultimately defensive in nature. And whilst i love Kazim he has never been profilic either for us or anybody else. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, GenBr said: Why would either play give us more of a cutting edge? Bielik is a fantastic player who may contribute a couple of goals, but he is ultimately defensive in nature. And whilst i love Kazim he has never been profilic either for us or anybody else. We look a different time with those two on form. If Bielik dominates the midfield then we are on the front foot but still defensively good Dethorn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spondon_ram Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I was happy with the price we paid for Bielik. A player of that quality could have gone for 2-3 times that by the end of his contract. Unfortunately 2 serious injuries have hampered that. On an outside thought, had he been fully fit and we sold him last summer would we be where we are? (Admin) jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 We need him our best player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 8 hours ago, Rampage said: I meant to say- in a couple of games time. Thought Bielik is out until the new year? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) I’m not sure it matters when they’re fit….unless the embargo has changed I don’t think they can play until two other players are de-registered ie out of contract / sold. Much will depend on :- 1. The date / length of contract the likes of Stearman / Allsop / Morrison / Jagielka / Baldock have and whether that expires on 1st January or 31st January….. 2. Whether admin means any players of value are sold on 1st January when window opens 3. Players like Hutchinson / Brown / McDonald / Watson who are close but not really been used generate any interest from other clubs. However, again it may be the admin staff decide keeping those players on low wages and little or no sale value right now, may be favourable to getting small fees and losing large wages on other players… Edited October 5, 2021 by Ravabeerbelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 10 hours ago, spondon_ram said: I was happy with the price we paid for Bielik. A player of that quality could have gone for 2-3 times that by the end of his contract. Unfortunately 2 serious injuries have hampered that. On an outside thought, had he been fully fit and we sold him last summer would we be where we are? (Admin) i don't think we would have been offered £30 million. ? DCFC Kicks and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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