Has the transfer embargo been lifted?

[RoyMac5]

16 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Might be a bit late here. Is it right that we weren't able to resign Davies by 31st so now he's classed as a new player.( despite our overlords at the EFL stopping us doing this) so now we can only bring in 3 players for a 3rd of the wages the EFL agreed a couple of weeks ago. 

No-one really knows wtf is going on at the EFL - they've got us on strings, they don't care. Got Reading fairly tied tight too.

[DCFC1388]

1 hour ago, plymouthram said:

Our Embargo will only allow us loans at 6 months and not a full season.

Yeh I understand that, but its always been that we wanted him on a season long loan despite those restrictions but now its changed to a 6 month loan. Seems like he could be one of the first players in, I thought we would wait until we could get him on a season loan

[plymouthram]

I haven't a clue how this transfer embargo works and the full details of how many players we can bring in. Currently at the club we have 17 players that are ours and that have played 1st team football for us last season (Not counting the F.A. cup game against Chorley). Those players being Marshall, Roos, Ebosele, Byrne, Forsyth, Mcdonald, Buchanan, Watson, Bird, Sibley, Shinnie, Lawrence, Bielik, Knight, Jozwiak, Kazim-Richards and Stretton. I would imagine Hutchinson will be part of our 1st team and maybe a couple of other youngsters.

So if we promote a couple of kids and Hutchinson into the senior team, how many free agents can we sign. My understanding is the requirement of at least 23 squad players. So does that mean we can only sign 3 free agents and can we take on loans on top of this?

And are we trying to negotiate a bigger squad with the EFL without Gibson (Boro chairman) throwing his dolly out the pram.

 

[Ravabeerbelly]

As I understand it Hutchinson was already counted as one of the players of ‘professional standing’ due to his EFL experience at Southend. There is one other but can’t, from your list work out who it is?

So….

If Cashin, Williams, Thompson or Solomon played a league game before the embargo is lifted or before we made any signings from the ‘trialists’ then they would also count towards the current squad.

As it stands we can make 4 (maybe 5) signings but if one of those mentioned plays before the embargo is lifted it would become 3 (maybe 4) allowed….if 2 play it becomes 2 (maybe 3)….if 3 play it becomes 1 (maybe 2)….etc etc 

Edited August 1, 2021 by Ravabeerbelly

[duncanjwitham]

19 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said:

There is one other but can’t, from your list work out who it is? 

Jordan Brown definitely had a first team appearance or two last season.

[Rampage]

20 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said:

As I understand it Hutchinson was already counted as one of the players of ‘professional standing’ due to his EFL experience at Southend. There is one other but can’t, from your list work out who it is?

So….

If Cashin, Williams, Thompson or Solomon played a league game before the embargo is lifted or before we made any signings from the ‘trialists’ then they would also count towards the current squad.

As it stands we can make 4 (maybe 5) signings but if one of those mentioned plays before the embargo is lifted it would become 3 (maybe 4) allowed….if 2 play it becomes 2 (maybe 3)….if 3 play it becomes 1 (maybe 2)….etc etc 

Some rules are unhelpful to say the least.

[DCFC1388]

51 minutes ago, plymouthram said:

I haven't a clue how this transfer embargo works and the full details of how many players we can bring in. Currently at the club we have 17 players that are ours and that have played 1st team football for us last season (Not counting the F.A. cup game against Chorley). Those players being Marshall, Roos, Ebosele, Byrne, Forsyth, Mcdonald, Buchanan, Watson, Bird, Sibley, Shinnie, Lawrence, Bielik, Knight, Jozwiak, Kazim-Richards and Stretton. I would imagine Hutchinson will be part of our 1st team and maybe a couple of other youngsters.

So if we promote a couple of kids and Hutchinson into the senior team, how many free agents can we sign. My understanding is the requirement of at least 23 squad players. So does that mean we can only sign 3 free agents and can we take on loans on top of this?

And are we trying to negotiate a bigger squad with the EFL without Gibson (Boro chairman) throwing his dolly out the pram.

 

Hutchinson & J. Brown both count to the players of professional standing

[cheron85]

Maybe I'm being a bit naive on this one - I assume the players we have on trial don't want to sign until they can get a 2/3 year contract on some better money than the (reported) £4,500 a week we can currently offer them?

Couldn't we offer then a weekly rolling contract? Then 3/4 of them could play the first few games and then once the situation is resolved we sign then onto a longer contract

[BramcoteRam84]

All questions for Mel - apols if similar ones have been posted

There has been much speculation in the media even from outlets you have been close to (Talksport) about our financial position with comments by Simon Jordan such as “all roads lead to administration”, if you cannot find a buyer is administration a real possibility? 
 

What will change this week that will enable us to sign players ahead of the first game? What restrictions are we currently working under and what needs to happen to remove those restrictions?

 There is an extremely negative perception of this club outside of Derby and even from some Derby fans due to the EFL dispute. We have been trusting the club’s stance on this that it is all the EFL and we are being victimised but as the other party involved in this situation, what in your view could we have done differently both in our dealings with the EFL and how we approached P&S to avoid this situation, and why are the majority other clubs seemingly able to avoid disputes with the EFL?

Edited August 2, 2021 by BramcoteRam84

[Arsene Titman]

So, it appears HMRC may have been paid but the relevant charge hasn’t been removed yet

[MACKWORTHRAM]

Would love to know how Alan Nixon from The Sun knows more about the goings on behind the scenes at Derby than anyone else. 

[roboto]

2 minutes ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

Would love to know how Alan Nixon from The Sun knows more about the goings on behind the scenes at Derby than anyone else. 

Lovely bit of cash in hand/anonymous bank transfer to whoever gives him some info. The juicier the gossip, the larger the amount.

[cheron85]

16 hours ago, Arsene Titman said:

So, it appears HMRC may have been paid but the relevant charge hasn’t been removed yet

I doubt the administrative team at the EFL works weekends - might be processed this morning

[Ghost of Clough]

On 31/07/2021 at 15:44, Woodley Ram said:

 

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- Apart from the accounts and HMRC is there anything  else holding up the ability to sign players

You can see the current reasons for the embargo here.

[Curtains]

1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said:

You can see the current reasons for the embargo here.

That’s it right there. 
 

Signings this week still difficult ? 

[Curtains]

Hoping David gets some good news tomorrow from meeting 

[rammieib]

19 hours ago, MACKWORTHRAM said:

Would love to know how Alan Nixon from The Sun knows more about the goings on behind the scenes at Derby than anyone else. 

He doesn't - just pretends and people just latch onto everything he says.

He's as correct as a Neil Ferguson Covid Model.

[Sparkle]

20 hours ago, Arsene Titman said:

So, it appears HMRC may have been paid but the relevant charge hasn’t been removed yet

I think you can read that completely the other way round?

[duncanjwitham]

4 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

I think you can read that completely the other way round?

I certainly read it the other way.  No, taxman is still unpaid, and the charge is still on the crime sheet. 

[hintonsboots]

1 hour ago, Curtains said:

Hoping David gets some good news tomorrow from meeting 

Needs to put his mob on record then transcribe the entire meeting for the forum, or will a NDA be signed ?