Has the transfer embargo been lifted?

[DCFC1388]

@RoyMac5  @Ramslad1992

 

[Ramslad1992]

22 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

@RoyMac5  @Ramslad1992

 

If that’s correct then that’s probably the most ridiculous thing the EFL has done out of all this…

so we already pay a player but we aren’t allowed to play him? Just goes to show how backwards the whole of the EFL is if this is true. 

needs a whole rebuild from top to bottom.

[duncanjwitham]

I think there’s a few crossed wires going on with that Steve Nicholson tweet. I think by “add another player” he’s referring to a new signing.  My understanding is that we can play as many of our own youth players as we want, there’s no restrictions on that at all. What it would do though, is block up a spot for a potential new incoming. With Ravel Morrison signing we are at the limit already, so in theory we can just play everyone and not worry about it. But it does mean that if we, for example, sold David Marshall, we couldn’t replace him.

[RoyMac5]

4 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said:

With Ravel Morrison signing we are at the limit already, so in theory we can just play everyone and not worry about it. But it does mean that if we, for example, sold David Marshall, we couldn’t replace him.

Unless we sell Marshall (if he wants to go) before playing the youngsters and then there's a spot left.

[duncanjwitham]

2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Unless we sell Marshall (if he wants to go) before playing the youngsters and then there's a spot left.

Yeah, the restriction isn’t having 23 professional players, it’s making signings when you have 23+.  If we want to play say Cashin on Tuesday, we need to get anybody out *and* get their replacements in before then.

Or we clear the HMRC issue/hard embargo and then we have plenty of spots left, obviously.

[Gladram]

This is what it says on the EFL website about upgrading players when under an embargo

 

[RoyMac5]

10 minutes ago, Gladram said:

This is what it says on the EFL website about upgrading players when under an embargo

 

Ah, bit trickier then.

[DCFC1388]

I wonder if a scholar can play and not count towards the 23 players? They wont have a 'professional' contract so surely wont count to players of 'professional standing'

[kevinhectoring]

On 07/08/2021 at 18:55, GenBr said:

Depends what it is the EFL and Derby are disagreeing about regarding our pre submittal of the accounts. If its that extra £30mill from the stadium that we want to pull out of the air i'd suggest we might be going the other way regarding player signings. We don't know for sure what said sticking point is, but if it is the above surely we just back down if we're compliant without it.

Agree with this. Because if Mel files accounts that the EFL objects to and if they open another dispute, it remains really hard for him to sell because of the uncertainty. And for a long time  

as you suggest, if we’re not compliant without the 30m, that’s a more difficult decision 

am skeptical about the 30m though because even though the DC opened this door, I think the board will have signed off on the more conservative basis. Hard to change it retrospectively 

[Rambalin]

1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said:

Yeah, the restriction isn’t having 23 professional players, it’s making signings when you have 23+.  If we want to play say Cashin on Tuesday, we need to get anybody out *and* get their replacements in before then.

Or we clear the HMRC issue/hard embargo and then we have plenty of spots left, obviously.

We should be OK to play anyone we choose on Tuesday because according to the Efl's own rules

'The limits do not apply to cup competitions or include under-21s unless they were signed on loan"

But this is the EFL so they will probably make up a rule just for us. 

[duncanjwitham]

3 minutes ago, Rambalin said:

We should be OK to play anyone we choose on Tuesday because according to the Efl's own rules

'The limits do not apply to cup competitions or include under-21s unless they were signed on loan"

But this is the EFL so they will probably make up a rule just for us. 

That’s the 25-man squad limits that apply to every club IIRC, it’s nothing to do with the embargo/professional-standing rules.

[Gladram]

8 minutes ago, Rambalin said:

We should be OK to play anyone we choose on Tuesday because according to the Efl's own rules

'The limits do not apply to cup competitions or include under-21s unless they were signed on loan"

But this is the EFL so they will probably make up a rule just for us. 

Not sure about that. The Embargo Rules and Professional Standing criteria, which we're under, seem to suggest only EFL Trophy doesn't count and age doesn't matter. 

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/embargoes-faqs/

[Yani P]

Like the way that everything ends with this will be determined by the league..

 

So basically blah blah blah....we make the rules and can decide whatever we want...blah blah blah....

[angieram]

There's no wonder Wayne is sleeping on the couch in his office, trying to get his head around all this day in day out!

[RoyMac5]

2 minutes ago, angieram said:

There's no wonder Wayne is sleeping on the couch in his office, trying to get his head around all this day in day out!

Still think he's hiding from Coleen. ? ? 

Basically contact the EFL to check every little thing we do!

 

[angieram]

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

Still think he's hiding from Coleen. ? ? 

Basically contact the EFL to check every little thing we do!

 

He went home after the game last night. Mentioned it in one of his interviews.

[Yani P]

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

Still think he's hiding from Coleen. ? ? 

Basically contact the EFL to check every little thing we do!

 

More importantly they can frame any requests however they see fit so if they are against you there is really nowhere to go..

[RadioactiveWaste]

Just now, angieram said:

He went home after the game last night. Mentioned it in one of his interviews.

All is forgiven and they've worked it out then I presume. Good for them.

[Rample]

Seen a tweet from Nixon saying we might be able to sign 4 more.. but I can't find it again. I don't do twitter.

[MickD]

22 hours ago, Andrew3000 said:

Spanner.

 

Edited August 8, 2021 by MickD