EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Van der MoodHoover said: Mancini has been getting credit for getting players into his squad from so called "unfashionable" clubs. Perhaps Gareth Southgate should widen his recruitment net, then he might not have to take injured players to tournament. Leeds, Villa and a relegated Sheffield United. Arsenal who finished outside top six. He has looked far and wide to be fair to Gareth Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Derbados said: Nonsense Mancini was 1-0 down after 2 minutes. His tactics, proactiveness of substitutions, experience and general nouse won them this game. Italy are unbeaten in 30+ games under Mancini, after we scored the goal he changed it up and they absolutely dominated us. we’ve got a better team and squad than Italy, 100%, and he made Southgate look like an amateur. Saying England have a better team than Italy is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Chiellini just gave an interview on ITV, that man is an absolute warrior and is so humble In victory, you just can’t buy that level of class. Him and Bonucci are masters of their trade, legends of defending Rev, Highgate, SKRam and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Derbados said: Nonsense Mancini was 1-0 down after 2 minutes. His tactics, proactiveness of substitutions, experience and general nouse won them this game. Italy are unbeaten in 30+ games under Mancini, after we scored the goal he changed it up and they absolutely dominated us. we’ve got a better team and squad than Italy, 100%, and he made Southgate look like an amateur. They didnt win the game, they drew 1-1. TigerTedd and Derbados 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Can’t help thinking we scored that goal too early. We didn’t seem to wake up until they equalised. Italy deserved to win it overall though. TimRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Van der MoodHoover said: Mancini has been getting credit for getting players into his squad from so called "unfashionable" clubs. Perhaps Gareth Southgate should widen his recruitment net, then he might not have to take injured players to tournament. sorry chap, but that is tripe. All of their squad cam from their top 8 teams last season or Chelsea or PSG. Arsenal 8th. Villa 11th Who are these missing CM he didn't pick? Ward-Prowse? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, G STAR RAM said: They didnt win the game, they drew 1-1. Ah cool, I take it the trophy stays at Wembley then? awesome, I must have been Mistaken, apologies SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: Saying England have a better team than Italy is nonsense. In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, Derbados said: Ah cool, I take it the trophy stays at Wembley then? awesome, I must have been Mistaken, apologies No but Im sure you know how football games work and over 90 and 120 minutes the score was 1-1. Doesnt sound like much of a schooling to me. Italy were the better team but lets not start making ridiculous knee jerk statements just yet. TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Derbados said: In what way? In the sense that they had better, more experienced players. Not tonnes better but better players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 This tournament has genuinely helped me enjoy football again after an 18 month stretch in which I completely fell out of love with it, mostly thanks to the sheer incompetence and general conduct of DCFC. By the time the next WC rolls around I might have just totally switched off. ThePrisoner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Derbados said: In what way? Italy were the better team over the 120 minutes and have been the best team throughout the tournament. Abu Derby, EtoileSportiveDeDerby, sheeponacid and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, TexasRam said: That’s all I’ve heard on the telly by the experts, that’s all that’s been said on the BBC, they’ll learn from this. It’s BS it can’t keep rolling on tournament after tournament, we should of won it. This was our best chance and we bottled it, too defensive and didn’t build on a great start. 55 years and counting Can't argue with that tbh, especially after the first 15 mins or so - we just sat back after that and got pushed further and further back. I turned to my wife in the 65th minute and said we need to make a double substitution right now, a few seconds later we were 1-1 and hanging on. Gutted we never went for it, we had them chasing shadows at Wembley for 15 mins but then let that match slip ? I'd like to think we'll peak in 2022 but does anyone really think we'll win Qatar? We've had 2 great runs to the final in the past 2 tournaments we'll need another favourable draw and significant practise from 12yds. This was our chance and we blew it. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: Legally the England player did contain a child but I am pretty sure you understand my point and that the 5th penalty in a major final is not the place for an inexperienced 19 year old who, to be honest, I had never heard of before this tournament. Saka is 19, you become an adult at 18 in England. What relevance is it that you'd never heard of him? No need to give that much head space because the answer, is absolutely zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Italy were miles better than us. One shot on target in 120 minutes is simply not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Derbados said: Nonsense Mancini was 1-0 down after 2 minutes. His tactics, proactiveness of substitutions, experience and general nouse won them this game. Italy are unbeaten in 30+ games under Mancini, after we scored the goal he changed it up and they absolutely dominated us. we’ve got a better team and squad than Italy, 100%, and he made Southgate look like an amateur. Because you've heard of the players in the Englsnd squad and have no idea who half of the Italians are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Saka is 19, you become an adult at 18 in England. What relevance is it that you'd never heard of him? No need to give that much head space because the answer, is absolutely zero. He's probably referring to Bellingham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 We don't have someone to control midfield. We have DCMs and CAMs but we don't have a deep lying playmaker to control the game. They passed us into the ground then took over. There are some suicidal people on here after a semi and a final in the last 2 tournaments. Fook me, how did you survive Graham Taylor being in charge? ariotofmyown and TigerTedd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, sage said: In the sense that they had better, more experienced players. Not tonnes better but better players. Don’t agree, Mount, James and Chilwell (who didn’t get a sniff btw) just won the champions League, Stones just won the premier league, Sancho scored 16 goals and notched up 20 assists in the Bundesliga, Trippier just won La Liga with Atletico Madrid. We have one of the best international squads in the world, unfortunately the manager doesn’t reflect the squads ambition Wolfie20 and SKRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Just now, sage said: sorry chap, but that is tripe. All of their squad cam from their top 8 teams last season or Chelsea or PSG. Arsenal 8th. Villa 11th Who are these missing CM he didn't pick? Ward-Prowse? Ward-Prowse might have helped. He was at least match fit. Henderson had little impact on the tournament. Bellingham less. I was merely quoting reported comment that Mancini had brought players in from outside the traditional Italian "big" clubs. Sassuolo were mentioned. No idea who they are and not that fascinated to look them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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