Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, maxjam said: I'm gutted ? I'm unlikey to see Derby win anything in my lifetime at this rate and if it takes another 55 years for England to reach a final won't see them win anything either. We started so brightly but let the Italians back into it, the match was there for the taking but we were far to defensive. It feels like a massive missed opportunity, especially after Pickford kept us in it with a terrific save from Jorginho. I ducked hate penalties. Were they 3 of the best 5 we have left on the pitch? If you're gonna have a stupid stuttery run up at least pick out a corner but they were just awful and if you miss 3 from 12 yds you deserve to lose. It’s almost like we let a 19 year old kid take the most important penalty in 55 years ? TigerTedd, TimRam, Abu Derby and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 I would rather have lost to two goals in the second half. The choice of penalty takers was incomprehensible and putting two cold players on to take them was ridiculous, let alone asking a child to take the 5th. Shame for the goalkeeper who made a couple of great saves. ??????? Abu Derby, Inverurie Ram, SKRam and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) Gutted. At least we’ve got next season to look forward too ? Edited July 11, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Thought the England team did us proud. The fans once again brought shame on the country and probably cost us any chance of getting another tournament in the next twenty years. Don't blame the penalty takers. They were brave enough to step up to the plate. I have grown to respect this England team and will support them again as they try to bring it home from Qatar. Alph, ariotofmyown, SKRam and 3 others 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: I would rather have lost to two goals in the second half. The choice of penalty takers was incomprehensible and putting two cold players on to take them was ridiculous, let alone asking a child to take the 5th. Shame for the goalkeeper who made a couple of great saves. ??????? 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Semis last World Cup. Final today. Win it in 2022. i think Southgate is learning as much as the players. It's a very young squad with tremendous depth. I think Southgate is the man to make sure these kids use it as fuel. No pizza ads though please guys. TigerTedd, ariotofmyown and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Tell you what though, I’m sick of hearing we’re a young squad and we’ve got loads of time ahead of us. I’ve heard that every tournament since 1986, this was our chance at home as well. We need to get a winning mentality, gutted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Terrible penalties, both Teams. If it is any consolation we (France) lost Euros at home and followed that by winning the WC. You got to be one of the favourites tesm is good enough. Chin up, onward and upward. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Steve Buckley’s Dog said: I would rather have lost to two goals in the second half. The choice of penalty takers was incomprehensible and putting two cold players on to take them was ridiculous, let alone asking a child to take the 5th. Shame for the goalkeeper who made a couple of great saves. ??????? I thought it was a strange decision, the kind it's easy to say is ridiculous after the event if it fails. But that England team didn't contain children and it's a bit insulting to suggest that. Wolfie20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Gaspode said: I wasn’t suggesting he should force them - but when they’ve spent 5 weeks practicing penalties I’d have expected a few of the more senior players to step up rather than hide - and the manager should have been working on that. Henderson for example - hugely experienced, Liverpool captain, yet subbed off because he hasn’t got the balls to take a penalty. Saka will get all the crap but some of the others need to look in the mirror and ask why they let that situation happen…. I'm not giving Saka crap. I wouldn't imagine Henderson doesn't have the balls, he just isn't very good at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 Weirdly I can actually thank Derby's last couple of seasons for not feeling that down about this. England's (and Southgate's) performance from the second half onward was VERY recognisable - so I'd come to terms with the loss before the 90 minutes were up. Shame, was a really good tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Derbados said: Better team won, but we won’t win anything with Southgate, ever. I love the bloke, he’s smart, articulate, likeable but he’s just doesn’t have that nouse, that experience that it takes to win the Euros / World Cup. Mancini absolutely schooled Southgate tonight Schooled him with a 1-1 draw? The outcome of a penalty shootout has very little to do with Mancini or Southgate's nouse. ariotofmyown, Inverurie Ram and Bob The Badger 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) There was a reason Saka was taken off v Denmark. Grealish should have been on sooner. There, I've saved everyone a post (or not read any of the previous ones!). Rant over, well done England. Thought Italy just about were the better team specially in 2nd half. Shows we can go toe-to-toe with best European team. Edited July 11, 2021 by TimRam TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, TexasRam said: Tell you what though, I’m sick of hearing we’re a young squad and we’ve got loads of time ahead of us. I’ve heard that every tournament since 1986, this was our chance at home as well. We need to get a winning mentality, gutted Only you haven't heard that, you either have a poor memory or your venting. Never in that time have we had not just such a young squad, but one that's so deep. In previous years we were always one or two injuries away from being out of contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, sage said: I'm not giving Saka crap. I wouldn't imagine Henderson doesn't have the balls, he just isn't very good at them. JJ pretty much said as much. Almost laughed and said he won't be taking one. Grealish was the one that surprised me. And it'd have been nice to have had Mount on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, sage said: They have a better team and come bring fresh legs on in midfield. We had a choice of Henderson coming back from long term injury and a 17 yr old lad. Mancini has been getting credit for getting players into his squad from so called "unfashionable" clubs. Perhaps Gareth Southgate should widen his recruitment net, then he might not have to take injured players to tournament. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Buckley’s Dog Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: I thought it was a strange decision, the kind it's easy to say is ridiculous after the event if it fails. But that England team didn't contain children and it's a bit insulting to suggest that. Legally the England player did contain a child but I am pretty sure you understand my point and that the 5th penalty in a major final is not the place for an inexperienced 19 year old who, to be honest, I had never heard of before this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Bob The Badger said: JJ pretty much said as much. Almost laughed and said he won't be taking one. Grealish was the one that surprised me. And it'd have been nice to have had Mount on. Grealish missed the last penalty he took and that was 2 seasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Schooled him with a 1-1 draw? The outcome of a penalty shootout has very little to do with Mancini or Southgate's nouse. Nonsense Mancini was 1-0 down after 2 minutes. His tactics, proactiveness of substitutions, experience and general nouse won them this game. Italy are unbeaten in 30+ games under Mancini, after we scored the goal he changed it up and they absolutely dominated us. we’ve got a better team and squad than Italy, 100%, and he made Southgate look like an amateur. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 11, 2021 Share Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Only you haven't heard that, you either have a poor memory or your venting. Never in that time have we had not just such a young squad, but one that's so deep. In previous years we were always one or two injuries away from being out of contention. That’s all I’ve heard on the telly every year by the experts, that’s all that’s been said on the BBC tonight, they’ll learn from this. It’s BS it can’t keep rolling on tournament after tournament, we should of won it. This was our best chance and we bottled it, too defensive and didn’t build on a great start. 55 years and counting Edited July 11, 2021 by TexasRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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