RoyMac5 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Players that were part of what looked like a doomed relegated team on a par with our shambles..... So when Rooney bought in Gregory and got him scoring that wasn't akin to Bowyer getting something out of his strikers then? Bald Eagle's Barmy Army and S8TY 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Curtains said: Excuses are not needed the squad is weak . It is but you could say that about all the teams in the bottom half of the table. Is Luton’s squad stronger than ours? Their Manager has got them safely in mid table.... Deej, Andicis and Ramarena 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 That Jutkiewicz is some player..lethal in the air from 5 yards when completely unmarked.. Ramarena, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, SouthernRam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I’ve said all along MM policy of 5 Academy players in the first team was a massive gamble in the Championship. Having said that I still think Rooney will keep us in the Championship well at least I’m still hopeful . If he doesn’t he will probably be gone . Who is making the decisions at Derby ! because they have been poor. Angry Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Yani P said: That Jutkiewicz is some player..lethal in the air from 5 yards when completely unmarked.. Knows how to find space. He's a quality striker, I presume his face hasn't fit previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: It is but you could say that about all the teams in the bottom half of the table. Is Luton’s squad stronger than ours? Their Manager has got them safely in mid table.... I don’t care about other teams . Our squad is weak . Ask anyone without blinkers on The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: It is but you could say that about all the teams in the bottom half of the table. Is Luton’s squad stronger than ours? Their Manager has got them safely in mid table.... Told you men against boys Players like Knight,Bird,Sibley,Buchanan can’t handle a relegation fight . In fact our players in general can’t. Edited April 25, 2021 by Curtains The Scarlet Pimpernel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Curtains said: I’ve said all along MM policy of 5 Academy players in the first team was a massive gamble in the Championship. Having said that I still think Rooney will keep us in the Championship well at least I’m still hopeful . If he doesn’t he will probably be gone . Who is making the decisions at Derby ! because they have been poor. I always thought it could be OK if you've got 1-2 coming in each year and you get to 50% over a few years and it's an aspiration rather than something to make a deliverable. Curtains and Van der MoodHoover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I always thought it could be OK if you've got 1-2 coming in each year and you get to 50% over a few years and it's an aspiration rather than something to make a deliverable. Why did we get rid of so many players . Martin,Huddlestone,Holmes ,Bogle,Lowe etc etc Bennett ,Pearce ,Malone I could go on . Marriott Edited April 25, 2021 by Curtains RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, Curtains said: Why did we get rid of so many players . Martin,Huddlestone,Holmes ,Bogle,Lowe etc etc To save money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: So when Rooney bought in Gregory and got him scoring that wasn't akin to Bowyer getting something out of his strikers then? What planet are you on Roy Mac ? How do you think Bowyers record in the last 8 games compares with our Wazza’s? You keep on defending the indefensible. You were so vocal that Cocu had to go but now support Wazza who has had a poorer record and looks like taking us down. We have won one game in 13, the players look shot, their seems no leadership on or of the pitch. Can you really see us winning one of our remaining games ?So I will ask you once again, how could you have been so unsupportive of Cocu and called for his head but continue to support Wazza who has done worse?Enlighten me please. Can you understand why it is so difficult for quite a few of us on here to get our heads round and seems such a contradiction ? Andicis, FlyBritishMidland, Derby4Me and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, Curtains said: Excuses are not needed the squad is weak . Is it drastically weaker than last season? Other than Martin, where are we significantly weaker. Clarke, Bird, Knight, Sibley, Lawrence, Waghorn, Martin. All of those bar Martin are still here for Rooney to use. Doesn't this argument only strengthen the view that Cocu did a good job last season? Jimbo Ram, Derby4Me, Andicis and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said: What planet are you on Roy Mac ? How do you think Bowyers record in the last 8 games compares with our Wazza’s? What was Rooney's in his first 12 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: I don’t care about other teams . Our squad is weak . Ask anyone without blinkers on But how has Luton’s manager, with a similar ability squad got more out of them, surely that is relevant to the discussion? Deej 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: What was Rooney's in his first 12 games? Not sure, did he have a 62% win rate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: Why did we get rid of so many players . Martin,Huddlestone,Holmes ,Bogle,Lowe etc etc Bennett ,Pearce ,Malone I could go on . Marriott Most of those are pretty crap tbf. Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BondJovi said: Is it drastically weaker than last season? Other than Martin, where are we significantly weaker. Clarke, Bird, Knight, Sibley, Lawrence, Waghorn, Martin. All of those bar Martin are still here for Rooney to use. Doesn't this argument only strengthen the view that Cocu did a good job last season? It’s over seasons we have got weaker Huddlestone,Lowe,Bogle ,Bennett ,Malone ,Evans,Pearce , Jozy, Johnson ,Homes, Marriott sidelined . Mount,Tomori, and the. Lad from Liverpool We don’t replace players with similar standard . Edited April 25, 2021 by Curtains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: But how has Luton’s manager, with a similar ability squad got more out of them, surely that is relevant to the discussion? It’s irrelevant about other teams. Our squad is weak and you must see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Not sure Or don't want to know that he did well. ? Couldn't be new manager bounce with Bowyer? Or just that he has players like Juke and we don't have Bielik. Oh no, couldn't be. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, RoyMac5 said: Or just that he has players like Juke and we don't have Bielik. Oh no, couldn't be. ? Jutkiewicz had 5 goals all season before he came up against our poo defending. He is no better than any player we've got. Deej and Ramarena 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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