NottsRam77 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, td_evans said: UK companies only show a tiny part of the picture. The bulk of their fund is Hong Kong based. Indeed the company (Duet Group Holdings Limited) who own much of the share capital in Rams Investment Limited and Rams Sports Management Ltd are Hong Kong based. Does that mean “show us the money” lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 2 hours ago, td_evans said: UK companies only show a tiny part of the picture. The bulk of their fund is Hong Kong based. Indeed the company (Duet Group Holdings Limited) who own much of the share capital in Rams Investment Limited and Rams Sports Management Ltd are Hong Kong based. Why hey....hong kong triads? We might finally get those triangles on the pitch i’ve Been after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, RamNut said: Why hey....hong kong triads? We might finally get those triangles on the pitch i’ve Been after. You’re so cheesy mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaaLocks Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 16 hours ago, GenBr said: The media reports the group is a consortium. Gabay is just the frontman for the whole thing. The media also reported that they would be buying a majority stake in the club with Mel staying on as Chairman. Gabay isn't in this on his own - he has nowhere near enough money to even buy a majority stake in the club - never mind absorb our losses for months on end. The Chinese 3WM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 If they are Hong Kong based let's hope we have done more due diligence than Birmingham City did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 I've always found this notion that if we don't announce that we've got money to spend then other clubs won't know we've got money to spend rather fanciful. It's as if people think Derby County exists in a bubble, other chariman don't ever talk to each other and nobody within a 10 mile radius of Moor Farm has access to the internet to check who this Henry Gabay bloke is. I'm sure there are plenty of people in football far more connected and in the know about this deal than us lot on here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Is there any news yet I thought they were hoping for news by the end of December ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I reckon it was done weeks back and nothing will be announced till after the window shuts. Why would you be stupid enough to announce you’ve got money pending and alert clubs to selling players 2x the amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Did anyone hear Mel Morris on radio Derby last night? Didn’t sound like we are gonna spend much money at all. Was going on about playing the academy and how he has spent £24 million on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I think the deal is done. Already complete. Sorted. We just haven't announced anything (and probably won't until after January) to prevent clubs from suddenly hiking their prices up when dealing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Well if we were about to be in the money there wouldn't be any need to sell Bogle, you would add to your best players, not sell your best player (not that he has been great of late). If we are selling Bogle I would imagine the investment isn't a huge deal, I keep saying, it probably just buys Mel more time by a) giving him some of his invested cash back and b) decreases the amount he needs to cover losses. I'm sure it would be worth more if we ever got promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I think it’ll be wrapped up, but won’t be announced until we’ve got some early business done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 06/12/2019 at 17:50, richinspain said: Amongst several things Mel said at the time of his famous "Derby Way" comments was that he wanted steady progression, and as a result of that a successful Premier League club. Some of the blame has to be at Mel's door because he chose/approved the managers that followed Mac I, however many if not all of those managers have let him down. Personal ambition, possibly false promises, or just ineptness, have been the downfall of that Derby Way. Maybe Mel has given Cocu instructions to bring it back, and maybe Cocu is prepared to achieve it without looking out for his personal gain first? The word transition has been used many times, by myself included, and there are some supporters that don't want transition but instant success at any cost. I don't know if this is really a year of transition or just slightly disappointing. What I do hope is that it is the start of the Derby Way, that the club will progress (quickly if possible, steadily if not). I also hope that any new investor is also on the same page as Mel and Cocu, and not another Paul Clement making promises of progression but really wanting instant returns on his investment. The Derby Way has been ridiculed and used as a means of having cheap digs at the club and at Mel. I personally would love to see the return of it. I think that Mel deserves the return of it for all that has happened on and off the field since he took over. What I most hope for his sake is that any new investor sees his vision and shares it, because in the long run it will make both of them more money. This season was supposed to be one of continued transition, but that all went out of the window with the "Will he stay or will he go", saga, followed by the "When the hell will he actually get his ass to Chelsea and let us get on with it?" saga, which left us high and dry without a chance of paddling away, let alone floating on to glory. So this season has become a write-off, "kicking around on a piece of ground in our home town, waiting for someone or something to show us the way". Well we have got that someone, but he was brought in way too late to do much apart from get the groundwork done ready for next season. And although last night was really satisfying, it may still be a false dawn, but at least we saw what we have been asking for - the players committed to the cause, giving us everything they had. Let's build om it fready for next August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 28/12/2019 at 14:53, BaaLocks said: The Chinese 3WM? Used to love the water margin......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Josh said: Did anyone hear Mel Morris on radio Derby last night? Didn’t sound like we are gonna spend much money at all. Was going on about playing the academy and how he has spent £24 million on it. Good. Don't want to unnecessarily spend money. At the beginning of next season Whittaker, Buchanan, Sibley, Bird, Knight and Mitchell-Lawson will all be permanent features in the match day squad. We should only spend money on long term prospects like Beilik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 On 06/12/2019 at 21:50, reverendo de duivel said: Lowe definitely played first team before Lampards tenure. Yes he did. I believe Mac debuted him. He played away at Wolves when Hughes chipped for Bent’s “over the shoulder” volley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram1964 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, DavesaRam said: This season was supposed to be one of continued transition, but that all went out of the window with the "Will he stay or will he go", saga, followed by the "When the hell will he actually get his ass to Chelsea and let us get on with it?" saga, which left us high and dry without a chance of paddling away, let alone floating on to glory. So this season has become a write-off, "kicking around on a piece of ground in our home town, waiting for someone or something to show us the way". Well we have got that someone, but he was brought in way too late to do much apart from get the groundwork done ready for next season. And although last night was really satisfying, it may still be a false dawn, but at least we saw what we have been asking for - the players committed to the cause, giving us everything they had. Let's build om it fready for next August! Plenty to build on for this season and hopefully some joy full moments as a fan. Not writing anything off just yet although no doubt further turmoil will unravel during the season as is the Derby way. Certainly believe we have enough to keep away from relegation and start showing more consistency in our performances. Let's keep the faith, continue solid support for Mel, Cocu and the team . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcfcsr92 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Well if we were about to be in the money there wouldn't be any need to sell Bogle, you would add to your best players, not sell your best player (not that he has been great of late). If we are selling Bogle I would imagine the investment isn't a huge deal, I keep saying, it probably just buys Mel more time by a) giving him some of his invested cash back and b) decreases the amount he needs to cover losses. I'm sure it would be worth more if we ever got promoted. After last night with wisdoms proformance I wouldn't mind if bogle went for the right money, it helped us so much towards the end of the match having a big full back because he was winning headers when we needed them it was like having a 3rd cb By the right price I mean £10-15m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Josh said: Did anyone hear Mel Morris on radio Derby last night? Didn’t sound like we are gonna spend much money at all. Was going on about playing the academy and how he has spent £24 million on it. He was proud of the academy unlike the idiot interviewing him who obviously knew very little about it all he could say was why hasnt it produced a central defender.Any one who has actually watched an academy game would know its money well spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 It would be just like Derby to announce this on NYE just as the parties are starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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