IlsonDerby

2 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

OK just for you, it was handball.

But the reality is we created the better chances and didn't take them, and a lot of credit has to go to your goalie. Equally, the responsibility lies with our strikers who are simply not as ruthless as our usual starters, especially Dion Charles.

As I mentioned during the match when we were battering you but couldn't score in a brothel, it was obvious that you'd get a scabby goal to win it which you did, but that's football folks - you don't always get what you deserve, and we didn't deserve to lose that, not that you care.

The irony is that it was Kane Wilson who was credited with the goal - a player we'd agreed a fee with Brizzle to sign, but didn't in the end as his personal terms and wage demands were too high for us, so he came to you instead.

Anyhoo, onwards and sideways.....

Can you list all of your clear cut chances?
Between the boxes you were better than us but the free header Wildsmith clawed out and the shot Wildsmith did a great save against are all I can remember. You created other chances but just bog standard chances where we’d have been disappointed to concede. 
 

On the other hand we missed a free header from within the posts from 8 yards out and we scored a goal. 
 

As I say you were much better between the boxes but that isn’t where games are won and lost. We showed why we’ve got the best defence in the division and then did enough with our limited chances.
 

We have the best goal difference in the league you know. The joint most wins too. 

2 hours ago, ap04 said:

Sounds like you only saw the stats, I'll sum it up for you but if you watched the game or the extended ignore it. We had one chance in the entire second half -you read that right- plus two half-chances in the first, nothing else of note; the other way keeper pulled two worldies, they hit the bar and came close at least a couple more times (50'-64'). Now I would agree the above against a tough opponent is "solid" if we were mid-table or lower, for an aspiring top 2/3 side at home I would call it "a stinker".

So be humble, accept we got the rub of the green (as has been the case numerous times this season, I make it win #9 where we haven't been the better side - 18 points right there for those who like their points and ppgs), be grateful for the result and move on, no need to get all snidey. Spare the gloating and glorifying for when we are actually decent and worthy winners, not after smash-and-grabs on our own turf. My tuppence anyway.

Right - now you’ve done condescending somebody who was there as he is every match I’ll refer you to xG which showed us having a higher xG.
 

They had that shocking miss from the header - we had Curtis miss a free header from 8 yards in between the posts. 

They had that shot Wildsmith saved well. We had our goal. 
 

Chances were few and far between. Other than their chance in the first half and the last 2 minutes of injury time we were completely comfortable until half time despite losing our focal point. 
 

They played a better brand of football and on another day they take one of their two big chances and we find it tough. On another day we score the header from Curtis and it puts more pressure on them. 
 

At the end of the day they had to bring the game to us. A draw wouldn’t have cut the mustard for them whereas a draw would have been fine for us. 
 

Look back at my previous posts since about November 2022 to find my thoughts on our performances under Warne. Im certainly not a happy clapper. Im vocally critical but we did an absolute number on Bolton yesterday. 

Overtaken Bryson and Martin for me as Clough juniors best signing for us.
The ability to come back from so many devastating injuries. The way we keep buying left backs to replace him and he kept swatting them away one by one. The way he’s reinvented himself into an excellent centre back both in a 2 and a 3. 

Love the egg! 

I don’t think Bolton were miles better than us. The football they play is a lot easier on the eye and is nice to watch as they move it around waiting for space to exploit but I think we were solid and had it not been for the odd poor touch here and there we’d have done a lot more on the counter attack. 
 

Anyway players need to forget it and focus straight on to the next match. Only Derby playing on Saturday out of the mini league of 5 at the top. Psychologically could be massive heading into the busy Easter period 7 points ahead of second and 2 points off top with superior goal difference. It turns the heat up on everybody around us when they’re cramming more games into a shorter time frame. We have to back yesterday up with a result at Northampton. 

Bloke I work with who’s both a county fan and a scout can’t understand this idea of fans wanting langstaff playing higher than L1. 
 

Says his movement isn’t good enough to play higher up. 

37 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Well done. Thought we deserved more but that's football.

See how it goes from here on in, but glad I don't have to watch that every week TBH.

We'll live 🙂

You’re the best side in the division and we’ve restricted you to 6 shots, only 3 of which are on target. That’s a solid performance. 
 

granted some of our performances haven’t always reached the heights we want every week but I wouldn’t judge us in a game against our toughest opponent. Today was about getting over the line. Nothing else matters. 

On 14/03/2024 at 06:45, IlsonDerby said:

With no disrespect to the team or fans - f*** Bolton. f*** the idea that we should be worrying so much about this match. Over 38 games they’ve not been as good as us. We have finally stumbled onto a system that is producing decent performances, Why should we change how we’ve taken to the last 3 matches? 
 

Go out and show them why we’ve got the best goal difference in the division. Go and attack them from the off. My heart not take watching us trying to soak up 90 minutes of pressure for Wildsmith to sprint out and foul their striker in the 86th minute for a pen. 

Well we had more shots than them 👀 

Never in doubt 👀. Superb effort and superb crowd. 
 

We've just beaten in my opinion the best team in the division. It’s ours to f*** up from here. 

With no disrespect to the team or fans - f*** Bolton. f*** the idea that we should be worrying so much about this match. Over 38 games they’ve not been as good as us. We have finally stumbled onto a system that is producing decent performances, Why should we change how we’ve taken to the last 3 matches? 
 

Go out and show them why we’ve got the best goal difference in the division. Go and attack them from the off. My heart not take watching us trying to soak up 90 minutes of pressure for Wildsmith to sprint out and foul their striker in the 86th minute for a pen. 

2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

I’ve seen some shockers against Derby, most notably Atwell and the Chris Martin dismissal at Burnley.

This is the first I can remember where we’ve had such shockers go for us.

Reading can’t complain much as there wasn’t much riding on it for them unlike our promotion six-pointer at Burnley.

 

I think the second yellow is harsh but in real team it looked like he had caught Hourihane and when you’re moving into the box if the ‘foul’ doesn’t happen then it’s always going to be a yellow. 
 

The penalty I’ve seen given and I’ve seen not given. I think they’d have wanted it if it was the other way round and we’d have probably been frustrated by it. 
 

We had the rub of the green but really should have been 2/3 up by half time. 

“2-1 to the referee” 

oh aye did he set them up to play f****** woefully in the first 45? 😂😂

57 minutes ago, McArthur Park said:

It was Wilson with the dummy for the third.

‘Dummy’ is being generous haha he’s tried to flick it in and missed completely 😂

3 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

And you're just as guilty by bumping the post which offends so much right to the top of queue again.

Let it go.

And you’ve just bumped this to the top of the queue. 
let it go. 

12 hours ago, NottsRam77 said:

Quiet on here tonight .. must the moaners have been put firmly back in their boxes …. Til tuesday at least 🙄🥱

well done to paul and the lads

coyr!!!!!

Comments like this are just as mind numbingly dull as the people out for blood at every moment. 
 

well done for trying to drag the thread back down into mindless bickering. Perhaps we could get back to enjoying the win and an actual performance that matches the result!  

Could di with a change or two to try and swing momentum back our way. 
 

NML and Barkhuizen look shattered 

10 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

From what I’m told, Clowes absolutely loves Warne and wouldn’t sack him within the term of his contract, no matter what happens. HOWEVER… he’s about the only one at the club who feels that way. Many other senior figures lost faith in him long ago. In fact, I was told the other day that Warne is likely to resign at the end of this season irrespective of promotion, such is the strain of those other relationships.

We don’t have any other senior figures do we? 😂

Deary me Boro 😂 

Cheer up Steve Gibson.

10 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said:

For negative sake? We have just lost 2 on the bounce, one against a team that hadn't won in 22 games. Both games we put in poor performances and that has been a theme all season.

I admit I've been more negative about Paul Warne than others, but that's purely because I saw concerns earlier on and unfortunately they were concerning enough for me to think he wasn't right for us. How I long for him to Ram that down my throat and prove me wrong.

 

I was sure he wouldn’t be the right man long term after Ipswich away last season. I’ve tried to bury that feeling since then but I don’t see anything that changes my mind. 
 

Will he eventually get us up? More than likely due to the nature of our squad compared to others in the division. 
 

Have I got any confidence if we go up? No. I know we’ll strengthen but this football without having players better than our opposition to win it with moments of magic will not be as successful. 

9 hours ago, Barney1991 said:

Could be worse

 

 

 

Im in no way advocating Evans being our manager but ‘a manager out performing his budget? Yes please’ 

11 hours ago, Jram said:

I don’t really know what to say to this. To my mind, it seems very dramatic. Were we ever likely to dominate many games in league 1 where everyone is pretty gash? We have the second best goal difference in the league which does suggest we’ve been dominant relative to the league. What exactly do you think will happen if we replace Warne? We win every game from now until the end of the season 3-0?
 

If we do go up, I don’t doubt next season will be poor because, as you say, we will have worse players. We will probably finish in the bottom half. That’s what happens when you have worse players. 

I’d love to see this squad of players coached well. That’s all. 
 

If Warne stays on as cheerleader then replace his coaches. 
 

I actually like Warne by the way. The interviews have grown on me. I think he’s a good guy. 
 

But for me I’d rather think the manager was a bit of a nob but who could set a team up to play high quality football consistently. 

4 hours ago, DB83 said:

The second half tonight was appalling and pretty much indefensible.

However, to everyone saying “Warne Out”, I ask you: who do you want on the touchline against Port Vale on Saturday instead?? And I don’t just mean “anyone”, or “Bob from down the street”. Who is your actual suggestion for a proper replacement who will improve our performances for the remainder of the season??

Anyone. Apparently Paul Simpson is close to being sacked following getting Carlisle promoted. Offer it him until summer. Reassess. 
 

Anyone that can encourage these talented lads to play some football. 

7 hours ago, Jram said:

Don’t be silly. We’ve played well in lots of games. Lots of teams have had periods of poor form. Everyone raved about Portsmouth- they were naff over Xmas. Everyone raved about Peterborough- they’ve dropped off the face of the earth.

Both Derby and Bolton are currently in a mini slump. Not the end of the world. All will look rosy again on Saturday when we batter Port Vale 

You can count on one hand the games we’ve actually really dominated this season. It’s not good enough. 
 

This turgid approach to football will see us finish rock bottom of the championship next year even if we do manage to drag ourselves across the line because ultimately we won’t be able to rely on having better players. 

3 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

My take is that the adversity the club was facing at that time galvanised everyone and unified fans, players and staff.
Now that we’re almost off life support and approaching “normality” there’s a difference in people’s expectations which is leading to the splits in the fan base, clearly not helped by some of the poor football/performances being turned out by an inconsistent team and manager/staff. 

Perhaps. 
 

I do honestly believe though it’s because we couldn’t expect any more than what we were seeing. We were up against it and we outperformed expectations in that we’d have comfortably stayed up had it not been for deductions. 

I just find it so hard to get excited about our club right now. How was a relegation battle more enjoyable than us being 2nd? 
 

Maybe it’s because our manager was squeezing every last drop out of the squad we had vs what we are seeing now. 
 

The pack mentality helped a lot. 

Just now, Patrick Rams said:

Under Rooney? When we beat teams such as Bournemouth Fulham and Sheffield United..all now Premier League sides? This is far worse!

Under Rooney when we went about 15 games without a win before that draw against Wednesday kept us up. The relegation season was way better as you say!