MadAmster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 16 hours ago, Ellafella said: Obviously… Obviously deliberately chosen to replace "Like I/you said" which he uses much less these days. Whoever does the media training needs replacing. As a retired English teacher, I'd take the job on. This leads me to another pet hate... I hear more and more people unable to pronounce the "th" letter combination correctly. Think becomes "fink". Bother becomes "bovver". This becomes "dis" or "vis". Do they not teach articulation these days at school? Ellafella, DavesaRam, BathRam72 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 23 minutes ago, MadAmster said: Obviously deliberately chosen to replace "Like I/you said" which he uses much less these days. Whoever does the media training needs replacing. As a retired English teacher, I'd take the job on. This leads me to another pet hate... I hear more and more people unable to pronounce the "th" letter combination correctly. Think becomes "fink". Bother becomes "bovver". This becomes "dis" or "vis". Do they not teach articulation these days at school? They probably don't have extensive media training, it's not exactly a vital part of their job. I also don't really expect footballers to be eloquent speakers, they're obviously going to stick to the vernacular for the most part. Also, have you ever been on camera or interviewed at all? You do end up repeating yourself and getting stuck on phrases a lot, it's just a thing that happens, even when you have a pretentiously extensive vocabulary like myself 😉 Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 40 minutes ago, MadAmster said: Obviously deliberately chosen to replace "Like I/you said" which he uses much less these days. Whoever does the media training needs replacing. As a retired English teacher, I'd take the job on. This leads me to another pet hate... I hear more and more people unable to pronounce the "th" letter combination correctly. Think becomes "fink". Bother becomes "bovver". This becomes "dis" or "vis". Do they not teach articulation these days at school? My pet hate also. I hate doing it but my stepson says 'bovvered' and 'Fink' So I have to ask if that is with 2 V's or is that a capital F? . I also hate when the T's get left out of words these days - better becomes Be'er (I can't even bloody write it) FlyBritishMidland and archram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, YorkshireRam said: They probably don't have extensive media training, it's not exactly a vital part of their job. I also don't really expect footballers to be eloquent speakers, they're obviously going to stick to the vernacular for the most part. Also, have you ever been on camera or interviewed at all? You do end up repeating yourself and getting stuck on phrases a lot, it's just a thing that happens, even when you have a pretentiously extensive vocabulary like myself 😉 As a matter of fact yes, I have been on camera and interviewed in both English and Dutch. In my own training business and also teaching at school (before I retired) I taught presentation and communication techniques as part of both Computer Science and English Language lessons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, BathRam72 said: My pet hate also. I hate doing it but my stepson says 'bovvered' and 'Fink' So I have to ask if that is with 2 V's or is that a capital F? . I also hate when the T's get left out of words these days - better becomes Be'er (I can't even bloody write it) When I was teaching, I was the only English teacher at the Dutch school and sports college that taught UK English. The rest did the US variety. I was the only one who spent lessons early doors with 1st years teaching them phonetics so they got their English pronunciation correct. Each and every sound we make is formed by a combination of mouth shape, tongue position, use or not of the throat..... easy when you know how. Problem is it's just not taught anymore. BathRam72 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, MadAmster said: Obviously deliberately chosen to replace "Like I/you said" which he uses much less these days. Whoever does the media training needs replacing. As a retired English teacher, I'd take the job on. This leads me to another pet hate... I hear more and more people unable to pronounce the "th" letter combination correctly. Think becomes "fink". Bother becomes "bovver". This becomes "dis" or "vis". Do they not teach articulation these days at school? You must uv loved Gary Rowett ven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, Andrew3000 said: You must uv loved Gary Rowett ven. Thanks for reminding me...... NOT !! 😉 Andrew3000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Deary me 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 42 minutes ago, MadAmster said: When I was teaching, I was the only English teacher at the Dutch school and sports college that taught UK English. The rest did the US variety. I was the only one who spent lessons early doors with 1st years teaching them phonetics so they got their English pronunciation correct. Each and every sound we make is formed by a combination of mouth shape, tongue position, use or not of the throat..... easy when you know how. Problem is it's just not taught anymore. My wife is an English teacher. She teaches phonetics and how to sound words etc. I think the problem is once these kids get out into society and the language is degraded due to laziness and TEXT speak. Unfortunately. Even the publishes are now adding text speak into their dictionaries. I know language evolves, but I think we are just getting lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaianoPOTY98 Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 59 minutes ago, MadAmster said: As a matter of fact yes, I have been on camera and interviewed in both English and Dutch. In my own training business and also teaching at school (before I retired) I taught presentation and communication techniques as part of both Computer Science and English Language lessons. FFS your too clever to be on this forum lol 🙈😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poynton ram Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 Any whispers about his intentions end of season and a new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireRam Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 1 hour ago, MadAmster said: When I was teaching, I was the only English teacher at the Dutch school and sports college that taught UK English. The rest did the US variety. I was the only one who spent lessons early doors with 1st years teaching them phonetics so they got their English pronunciation correct. Each and every sound we make is formed by a combination of mouth shape, tongue position, use or not of the throat..... easy when you know how. Problem is it's just not taught anymore. I thought you seemed familiar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 14 minutes ago, YorkshireRam said: I thought you seemed familiar... I had rather more hair in those days... 🙂 YorkshireRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 8 Author Share Posted March 8 (edited) My brother Mozza went to Hillside school close to Louie’s home. He was taught to speak impeccable English that even professor Higgins would be impressed to hear! Don’t underestimate the education system! Blame the company one keeps! Edited March 8 by Brammie Steve DavesaRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Another decent performance from Louie today, he’s making that LWB berth his own angieram, Gritstone Ram, LeedsCityRam and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Well we can’t all speak Chaucerian English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufferingfool Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 52 minutes ago, Premier ram said: Another decent performance from Louie today, he’s making that LWB berth his own The position suits him as he is much better when receiving the ball in front of him to run on to. His best games that I have seen have been at LB or Wing back. Premier ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 (edited) On 08/03/2024 at 13:35, MadAmster said: When I was teaching, I was the only English teacher at the Dutch school and sports college that taught UK English. The rest did the US variety. I was the only one who spent lessons early doors with 1st years teaching them phonetics so they got their English pronunciation correct. Each and every sound we make is formed by a combination of mouth shape, tongue position, use or not of the throat..... easy when you know how. Problem is it's just not taught anymore. Don’t get me started on use of English. The number of posters who write “must of, could of”, instead of “have” or “they was good, or We was rubbish” instead of “were”. Grrrr. Edited March 9 by Turk Thrust MadAmster, archram, DavesaRam and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Social media will be the death of regional accents eventually fam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, Sufferingfool said: The position suits him as he is much better when receiving the ball in front of him to run on to. His best games that I have seen have been at LB or Wing back. Said it before. In a wider ranging midfield role Sibley can look good on the ball but is too often awol because he doesn’t take up the right positions, whether we’re in or out of possession. So when we’re in possession he doesn’t get the ball and when we’re out of position he flies around chasing the ball and often conceding fouls. But stick him on the wing and it’s easier for him to be in the right place : his role is clearer and more obvious (just to pick a word), so it suits him better. The other place he tends to find good positions is in the oppo’s box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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