Ramrob Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Mihangel said: Some of this is down to luck, the odd gem that goes for £30m could come through at, literally, any academy. Just as our academy should have been really coming to frution, the club started going in to meltdown (less due to luck that bit. Anyway, best of luck to Derren Walsall, he's been a great servant. Do you think he guessed what was coming? Mihangel and Carl Sagan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Who do you think Could Barker Adam boulder Could steel Jake Buxton do it Who do rest think might be able to do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Great solid soldier. No idea of his abilities in the real world but clearly a sound man. Good luck Daz Waz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Farewell DazWaz, We'll always have Rotherham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: Who do you think Could Barker Adam boulder Could steel Jake Buxton do it Who do rest think might be able to do the job. Does having a connection to Derby make them leading candidates? Why not Sally pepper? europia, David Graham Brown, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, KBB said: Does having a connection to Derby make them leading candidates? Why not Sally pepper? She didn't play for Derby you plonker David Graham Brown and EtoileSportiveDeDerby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 5 hours ago, OohMartWright said: @David There are now three threads about Darren Wassall, all of which have his name spelled incorrectly in the title. As a courtesy to him, could you please edit these to show the correct spelling? Thank you. Think Darran Walsall will appreciate that. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, Gerry Daly said: She didn't play for Derby you plonker Ah I see. Gonna throw stern John, bob malcolm and Jason Talbots names in the hat too if I may. Gerry Daly and David Graham Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrycav81 Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Ramarena said: We’ve lost a lot of talented potential over the last couple of years due to our situation. We’ve not been able to see how they could have flourished if they’d have stayed and gained first team experience. On the subject in hand, Wassall has done a good job and stepped in wherever we’ve needed him. The dogs abuse he got when he replaced Mac was completely uncalled for. He’s seen the academy through good and bad times and always done a good job. Shame to see him go and good luck to him! I think he replaced Clement not Mac but he did get dogs abuse at Rotherham when we lost a 3-0 lead in the last 10 minutes when he made a load of strange substitutions Good luck to him he did an ok job for us and always came across well SKRam, Ramarena and David Graham Brown 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 hours ago, OohMartWright said: @David There are now three threads about Darren Wassall, all of which have his name spelled incorrectly in the title. As a courtesy to him, could you please edit these to show the correct spelling? Thank you. Everyone knows it's spelt Waffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Who do you think Could Barker Adam boulder Could steel Jake Buxton do it Who do rest think might be able to do the job. They will struggle to attract anyone as good as Daren Wassall B4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 52 minutes ago, Henrycav81 said: I think he replaced Clement not Mac but he did get dogs abuse at Rotherham when we lost a 3-0 lead in the last 10 minutes when he made a load of strange substitutions Good luck to him he did an ok job for us and always came across well Yes, I’d forgotten about Clement assumed it was Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U.M. Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 3 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Who will replace darren waddle as youth system will it be some warn knows Mel's legacy will be debated for years to come, but one decision he made that shouldn't be questioned is the one to separate the academy Management from the first team structure. The stability we had in the academy is a stark contrast to the revolving door at first team level. As such, we shouldn't make DW's replacement a Warne appointment. (I'm sure his opinion will be sought, but the replacement must be separate from his team and not likely to leave if Warne goes in the future) To throw out a possible, with a Derby connection (not really required) - Gary Bowyer. Been here twice (so presumably did ok first time around). Been on Academy staff at Blackburn as well - got promoted to Manager, so guess he had done ok there too.... And currently out of work, I think. Premier ram, LeedsCityRam, David Graham Brown and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Farewell DazWaz, We'll always have Rotherham. Nah, IstanHull My only ever away pitch invasion 😂 Premier ram and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Brailsford Ram said: They will struggle to attract anyone as good as Daren Wassall B4. Do you really think that? So many teams out there with less than Cat1 producing high value players. When was the last time we produced a player worth ££££££ Yes we’ve had players make the first team but so we should with the level of spend each year. But an academy like ours needs to produce profit and we might just break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Wasn't there a mini scandal 2 or 3 years ago with agents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 53 minutes ago, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army said: Do you really think that? So many teams out there with less than Cat1 producing high value players. When was the last time we produced a player worth ££££££ Yes we’ve had players make the first team but so we should with the level of spend each year. But an academy like ours needs to produce profit and we might just break even. Value is circumstance dependent, to be fair. We sold Jeff after a good Euros and made a killing on him. We sold Hughes just before Neymar blew the transfer market up. Sibley was worth eight figures in the summer of 2020. It’s not directly applicable but we turned down £4,000,000 for Barnes and released him early 18 months later! David Graham Brown and LazloW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrycav81 Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 4 hours ago, cannable said: Value is circumstance dependent, to be fair. We sold Jeff after a good Euros and made a killing on him. We sold Hughes just before Neymar blew the transfer market up. Sibley was worth eight figures in the summer of 2020. It’s not directly applicable but we turned down £4,000,000 for Barnes and released him early 18 months later! I think it was B4 that said Sibley was worth 8 figures in fact it may have been 9 😀 Mucker1884, SKRam, jimtastic56 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StantonRam Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 It seems to me that over his tenure many players emerged who made an impact in the 1st team &/or were sold on &/or played at the top level. To name but a few - Hughes, Hendrick, Bogle, Lowe, Knight, Bird, Sibley. It also seems to me that we owe him a big debt of gratitude for unearthing so much talent over the years, and for providing young players with a stable environment during the years of turbulence. I for one would be sorry if the steady flow of Academy players into the 1st team were to end, and I hope that it doesn't. Thank you Darren for everything and good luck in the future. Dordogne-Ram, europia, angieram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 9 hours ago, U.M. said: Mel's legacy will be debated for years to come, but one decision he made that shouldn't be questioned is the one to separate the academy Management from the first team structure. The stability we had in the academy is a stark contrast to the revolving door at first team level. As such, we shouldn't make DW's replacement a Warne appointment. (I'm sure his opinion will be sought, but the replacement must be separate from his team and not likely to leave if Warne goes in the future) To throw out a possible, with a Derby connection (not really required) - Gary Bowyer. Been here twice (so presumably did ok first time around). Been on Academy staff at Blackburn as well - got promoted to Manager, so guess he had done ok there too.... And currently out of work, I think. Good shout. I'd like to see us hire someone like the assistant manager from the Forest academy.sSeems they are doing something right David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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