Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Yani P said: If he doesn't want to play here and we can't sell him I would tell Brum he can stay for the season if they pay his wages. Perhaps offer him the chance to forgoe the no doubt considerable element of his wages they may not be covering to leave him in the championship sunshine. Tomorrows headline' I CAN'T WAIT TO GET BACK TO DERBY AND HELP THEM TO PROMOTION' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 I can't see Birmingham offering to cover all of his wages. They've got an agreement for the season so they're not going to suddenly pay more. He will be staying under the same conditions or returning to us. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Doesn't really matter what we or Beilik want, now the World Cup is over finances will mostly dictate. If he comes back we have a useful player, but he will take a huge chunk out of anything we can do transfer-wise. Will Warne want to be hampered in such a way? Probably the best scenario all round is selling him for as much as we can get (which won't be much more than 2 million I'd imagine), after that it's covering his wages with a loan. If he returns, we have a very useful player, with the large downside of him being a high risk of getting injured again, fitting in with the squad, costs us a fortune and hinders our transfer plans moving forwards. RoyMac5 and DiggerB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Aren’t Brum in crisis anyway? Do we stick on Black Lace song yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Starting tonight. Brum v Reading. Sky 403. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadybreeze Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 14/12/2022 at 20:50, Ramarena said: Doesn't really matter what we or Beilik want, now the World Cup is over finances will mostly dictate. If he comes back we have a useful player, but he will take a huge chunk out of anything we can do transfer-wise. Will Warne want to be hampered in such a way? Probably the best scenario all round is selling him for as much as we can get (which won't be much more than 2 million I'd imagine), after that it's covering his wages with a loan. If he returns, we have a very useful player, with the large downside of him being a high risk of getting injured again, fitting in with the squad, costs us a fortune and hinders our transfer plans moving forwards. Starting for Brum tonight. We need to hoping for good performances and then sell him on sharpish before he breaks down again. The thought of him running around in freezing cold temps tonight on whats probably a hard pitch fills me with dread. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 OTT didn't realise Hendrick was playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRam Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Hendrick, Ince, Bielik The nearly men?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 09/12/2022 at 11:32, Thameram said: If your bielik wouldn't you want to come back and lead your club to promotion in front of fab home and away fans instead of pottering about in mid table bottom half, half empty run down stadium with uncertainty surrounding the club If promotion were assured, perhaps he might. Perhaps. Reality is we’re not a match with KB any more, I think we just need to accept that and wish him well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 What did he show tonight that we're desperate to have in the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: What did he show tonight that we're desperate to have in the team? The ability to hold together a midfield. Playing as a solo DM allows others, in Brum's case, Hannibal and Bacuna, freedom to go forward without having to worry too much about defending. He won 8/11 duels and made 6 tackles. Edited December 16, 2022 by Jubbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Jubbs said: The ability to hold together a midfield. Playing as a solo DM allows others, in Brum's case, Hannibal and Bacuna, freedom to go forward without having to worry too much about defending. He won 8/11 duels and made 6 tackles. Those are things (many) fans are desperate to have in their team, which was indeed the question. The real question perhaps should be, what has he shown that Warne is desperate to have in his midfield? I don't think both answers point to the same player. There's no such thing as a 'defensive midfielder' under Warne. Edited December 17, 2022 by Kokosnuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, Kokosnuss said: There's no such thing as a 'defensive midfielder' under Warne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Exactly. One of the things that Warne has been (rightly) praised for is 'freeing Bird from the shackles of DM by allowing him to get forward'. He's not playing him as a defensive midfielder. Warne himself has said that the way he wants us to play leaves us open to the counter attack. It's not something he seems particularly concerned about as the benefits (might) outweigh the positives. The way we leave Korey Smith as the only player back at set pieces is another sign of this attitude - we've been caught out by it a number of times but we still do it. We're never going to have someone just sitting deep breaking up play, focussed on controlling the midfield. Edited December 17, 2022 by Kokosnuss Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Kokosnuss said: Those are things (many) fans are desperate to have in their team, which was indeed the question. The real question perhaps should be, what has he shown that Warne is desperate to have in his midfield? I don't think both answers point to the same player. There's no such thing as a 'defensive midfielder' under Warne. You’d argue that Bielik’s best spell for us was when Rooney had him playing as rampaging midfield destroyer in a 442. Suppose it would be a question of whether he still has the legs. May Contain Nuts and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Off in January I believe, I don’t expect him to be at us or Brum 48 hours, Carnero, Zag zig and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, cannable said: You’d argue that Bielik’s best spell for us was when Rooney had him playing as rampaging midfield destroyer in a 442. His best spell was playing as the deepest midfielder in a midfield 3 under Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Trav said: Off in January I believe, I don’t expect him to be at us or Brum Is that so Big Trav ? hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Is that so Big Trav ? Yes, heard Watford are one of the clubs that want him. But there’s a few so fingers crossed for a bidding war Ram@Lincoln, Zag zig, Crewton and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Looks like he’s with us or Brum then Big Trav, Boycie, Jimbo Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account.
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now