PistoldPete Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: it seems very unlikely MM is in cahoots w DC. But it’s possible MM has some sort of ongoing interest - overage is common in that sort of contract. And if DC agreed to it I’d guess it was because it was the only way he could get MM to sell him the stadium. Doubt that would have been a factor in WR’s decision — div 1 is a big stretch for him and it needed to be on his terms Anyway, WR can hardly complain, he likes a bit of overage Rooney certainly doesn’t risk going with anyone underage. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Flying Fokker said: County need Nothing wrong with the rest of your post though. Its useful to know how things went down with coventry. Think we'll be in for a few tough years now. David Graham Brown, RadioactiveWaste and Premier ram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Gossip alert there’s a bit of gossip. Potentially mischief making, but amusing nonetheless. Mike Ashley has submitted a bid equal to 37p in the pound on the basis that rival bidders have to match or better this, otherwise Quantuma are legally obliged to accept it. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taribo Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Gossip alert there’s a bit of gossip. Potentially mischief making, but amusing nonetheless. Mike Ashley has submitted a bid equal to 37p in the pound on the basis that rival bidders have to match or better this, otherwise Quantuma are legally obliged to accept it. Mike Ashley can offer whatever the hell he likes now but if I was D.C. I’d charge a gazillion quadrupilion pounds rent for MA to use the stadium atherstoneram, GenBr and Mostyn6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobdeBilder Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Flying Fokker said: I’m biased, Cov first. Anyone can argue the toss as to whether Rooney was ‘The Man’. I don’t like the guy but he has even grown on me. Not my hero. Then again, I don’t do that. County need to appoint an experienced journeyman in the short term in my opinion. Someone to set the foundations in place. Coventry City chose cheap and nasty managers for several years after admin. Some real rubbish. Their budget has been tightly controlled ever since, as it is currently in the bottom 5 Championship funds for players. Mark Robbins is not currently available! it will be an interesting few years at Derby. High fan base, in a physical league and some big name clubs. As has been said many a time, it would be great to talk football. Notts, Stockport, Newport are all county. We are Derby, Derby County or Rams, never just county. GenBr, Kathcairns, Ram@Lincoln and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Taribo said: Mike Ashley can offer whatever the hell he likes now but if I was D.C. I’d charge a gazillion quadrupilion pounds rent for MA to use the stadium So you don't think DC is a real fan after all? If you were him you'd rather be stuck with a white elephant than allow anyone else to own the club and play at PP? Hopefully DC wouldn't be that vindictive. RedSox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Gossip alert there’s a bit of gossip. Potentially mischief making, but amusing nonetheless. Mike Ashley has submitted a bid equal to 37p in the pound on the basis that rival bidders have to match or better this, otherwise Quantuma are legally obliged to accept it. He’s a nightmare and who’d envy q having to handle him. The worst thing is, his bid (if it exists) probably assumes they take a cold bath on fees, leaving q subsidising the uplift to UCs . And q know he’ll drop his suit if he gets us. One thing you can say about Ashley is, you’d rather have him on your side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RipleyRich said: Just considering contracts and the loophole that a couple of players are exploring, could the new owners rip up those contracts and offer new contracts? If so, they could make those contracts unappealing and remove the staff that way if they wished? Dunno the answer BTW. This is the UK you can’t rip up contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I would say that Rooney and Ebiowei going have knocked at least a million off our value. The more assets we lose the less there is for any new owner to buy. At this point it's the youth set up that's the attractive prospect, and for that we need key staff like Wassall to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: He’s a nightmare and who’d envy q having to handle him. The worst thing is, his bid (if it exists) probably assumes they take a cold bath on fees, leaving q subsidising the uplift to UCs . And q know he’ll drop his suit if he gets us. One thing you can say about Ashley is, you’d rather have him on your side Why would you want to be on the side of a bully? archram, Kathcairns, Jimbo Ram and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RipleyRich said: Just considering contracts and the loophole that a couple of players are exploring, could the new owners rip up those contracts and offer new contracts? If so, they could make those contracts unappealing and remove the staff that way if they wished? Dunno the answer BTW. Depends what is in their contracts. Unless legally confirmed - and I'm not a lawyer - I wouldn't be 100% that you can simply rip contracts up because a new owner takes over. A new club - i.e. phoenix with name taken, yes I would imagine you could; but I'm not sure - unless written in - you can do this with a simple takeover. So I recommend take that with pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rample said: I would say that Rooney and Ebiowei going have knocked at least a million off our value. The more assets we lose the less there is for any new owner to buy. At this point it's the youth set up that's the attractive prospect, and for that we need key staff like Wassall to stay. Rooney going will also knock quite a number off season ticket sales too I know nuffin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rample said: I would say that Rooney and Ebiowei going have knocked at least a million off our value. The more assets we lose the less there is for any new owner to buy. At this point it's the youth set up that's the attractive prospect, and for that we need key staff like Wassall to stay. Ebiowei, yes - talented, young and probably hitherto very cheap. Rooney has raised it. His wages are high, and whilst he does bring considerable value, you have to temper that against his cost. A new owner might want a cheaper coach, or their own guy. I think Rooney leaving makes us more valuable. Ted McMinn Football Genius and nogbad van 50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Gossip alert there’s a bit of gossip. Potentially mischief making, but amusing nonetheless. Mike Ashley has submitted a bid equal to 37p in the pound on the basis that rival bidders have to match or better this, otherwise Quantuma are legally obliged to accept it. He has to formally offer, and DC cannot be in exclusivity - or they cannot accept it. The terms would also need to be like for like. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Rambalin said: Rooney going will also knock quite a number off season ticket sales too That was my thought, at least 1000 if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, angieram said: Why would you want to be on the side of a bully? you’re right of course. But he’s a successful bully and in this case success means a return to the top flight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, kevinhectoring said: you’re right of course. But he’s a successful bully and in this case success means a return to the top flight Because the creditors are being offered more money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBX1985 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, Ambitious said: That was my thought, at least 1000 if not more. That would be c£380,000. If he earns £90k pw, as some posit, and you can get that down to £18k, those season ticket losses might be well worth it. Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 hours ago, RammingStone66 said: Who says he wants it? Why would he (Liam) not want it. Holding out for another #2 job? Or smaller club (<Blackpool as they did not want him so eg. Could be Bristol Rovers or Fleetwood ??). Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Rambalin said: Rooney going will also knock quite a number off season ticket sales too Not so sure… Edited June 25, 2022 by Jimbo Ram David Graham Brown, Tamworthram, I am Ram and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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