uttoxram75 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 25 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Just typical EFL posturing. I think they're absolutely s******* themselves now their pursuit of Derby is looking like it could prove terminal, so they are desperately trying to position Q as the villains of the peace and hoping everyone will forget their role in this whole, sorry debacle. This. Rick Parry will be desperate not to be blamed if we go under. He is personally responsible for his failure to deal with Gibson's spurious claim. Cowardly and unprofessional behaviour which will never be forgiven. Comrade 86, Alan Ramage 4 EVA, Norman and 25 others 17 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodypecker Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: This. Rick Parry will be desperate not to be blamed if we go under. He is personally responsible for his failure to deal with Gibson's spurious claim. Cowardly and unprofessional behaviour which will never be forgiven. Never forgiven, nor forgotten; EFL yet again showing mastery of false messaging and accusatory finger-pointing. They are showing their panic in the only way they know - to shift the blame. They delayed and deferred many processes which damaged DCFC for 2.5 years, as if MM & Pearce's stupidity and 'creativity' weren't enough to mortally would the club. We will mount a huge witch-hunt and media assault if DCFC dies, to turn the spotlight on these incompetent custodians of the League. We'll do it anyway: we're Derby County, we'll fight to the end! Permanent middle-finger and worst wishes too upon the parasite clubs ? GenBr, jono, Oldben and 6 others 4 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Stoke debts at 31 May 2021 £230m Middlesbrough debts at 30 June 2021 £150m Birmingham debts at 30 June 2021 £117m Reading debts at 30 June 2021 £116m Nottingham Forest debts at 30 June 2021 £73m By G Star Ram The difference is those clubs are not in administration and at this time are a going concern. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 hours ago, B4ev6is said: I have seen efl want to speak to other bidders but Q are blocking them doing just that. If that is the case surely efl can go to the FA and say we need your help. The administrators are not doing anything of the sort, there is a judicial process that has to be followed and the EFL cannot interfere with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: How hell do those clubs get away levels of debt we all know why boro get away with it and damn forest because p most fluke way. We were the same until MM pulled the plug. No use blaming others for the plight we are in. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: Cobblers Q should just tell bidders that if they want to stay in the frame then they need to consent to disclosure to EFL Once again Q make the wrong call Rubbish, they are only in negotiations with the administrators, they cannot force the bidders to disclose anything to a Third party. CBRammette, GB SPORTS, Crewton and 4 others 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: This. Rick Parry will be desperate not to be blamed if we go under. He is personally responsible for his failure to deal with Gibson's spurious claim. Cowardly and unprofessional behaviour which will never be forgiven. True, the EFL now find themselves trapped in a corner and are looking for a scapegoat. PistoldPete, Indy, GB SPORTS and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 hours ago, DCFC1388 said: Surely if there is no takeover done by Tues the admins need to secure funding for the rest of the season, at least that way we can start to build pur squad within the framework of the finances for the season. I dont see a further loan putting off bidders as if it was that much of a concern they would bid enough now. Also, they would have covered the cost of the season themselves anyway so any loan would be what they would have already paid, maybe just with abit of interest on top which imo they deserve to pay for making this drag out and not just bidding. If they take another loan out all it is doing is adding debt on to debt therefore the bidders will have to pay more to get the club out of administration, it seems like the debt is already too high. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Oh, I see @Oldben meant in the history of the Championship. Not even top 6. I think that the rob dorsett article in sky news was referencing the largest ever debt for a championship club that's been placed in Administration. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11696/12527725/derby-countys-debts-believed-to-be-more-than-60m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Stoke debts at 31 May 2021 £230m Middlesbrough debts at 30 June 2021 £150m Birmingham debts at 30 June 2021 £117m Reading debts at 30 June 2021 £116m Nottingham Forest debts at 30 June 2021 £73m By G Star Ram The Stoke debts include loans by the owner - I suspect that others do too. If our £123.4m owed to Mel is included, we were getting up towards £200m in debt. jimtastic56, Crewton and Miggins 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: The Stoke debts include loans by the owner - I suspect that others do too. If our £123.4m owed to Mel is included, we were getting up towards £200m in debt. But we dont owe £123.4m to MM so its irrelevant. MM has pulled the plug and our club owes somewhere in the region of £70m. If the clubs listed above had their owners pull the plug that is what they would owe. Just correcting the poster that was saying our debts are the highest ever seen in the Championship, they are not even close. Carnero and GB SPORTS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUTSIDER Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 A super bid ... wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Will one of the parties supposed to want to own us please place a bid rather than talk about ut Crewton, jono, jimtastic56 and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 minute ago, I know nuffin said: Will one of the parties supposed to want to own us please place a bid rather than talk about ut By bid I mean an offer of real money to buy us Crewton and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Cobblers Q should just tell bidders that if they want to stay in the frame then they need to consent to disclosure to EFL Once again Q make the wrong call They could make it part of the NDA's being signed. After all they'll have to pass EFL's Fit & Proper test and so on further down the line. kevinhectoring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Loughborough Ram said: We are in a position where rich men on all sides of our current predicament are happy to lie and leak stories to the media as long as it furthers their cause. Are the EFL an offshoot of the Tory Government, then? Ramarena, Eatonram, I know nuffin and 2 others 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Cobblers Q should just tell bidders that if they want to stay in the frame then they need to consent to disclosure to EFL Once again Q make the wrong call So that would pretty much rule everyone of the bidders out except for ashley maybe. Thank goodness you are not in charge of the bidding process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: The EFL knows this and should always have known this. Or perhaps they skipped basic GDPR training. Exactly. Birch's reply says Q has told the EFL that they have responsibilities under GDPR. Why on Earth should EFL need to be told this? Indy, I know nuffin and FlyBritishMidland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: But we dont owe £123.4m to MM so its irrelevant. MM has pulled the plug and our club owes somewhere in the region of £70m. If the clubs listed above had their owners pull the plug that is what they would owe. Just correcting the poster that was saying our debts are the highest ever seen in the Championship, they are not even close. But that's illogical. At the point of entering administration, we owed c£193m. That is the direct comparison with the above list. OK, it seems from the administrators update that Mel hasn't claimed the £123.4m, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist, nor that the owners of the other clubs wouldn't do something similar if they went into admin. To compare our £70m with Stoke's £230m is comparing apples to oranges - they are two different things. alram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 Can’t believe after all this time we are in the same position, admin keeping EFL far away whilst they keep rinsing us for money, no timeline for bids? Pathetic jimtastic56, Derby4Me and Abu Derby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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