Tyler Durden Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, DCFC1388 said: They can only spend what the business plans allowed so it would be a hell of a risk to think we would survive a -15 point deduction with a very likely brand new squad. Maybe they think we won't hence the rationale behind the low in parentheses bids? europia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, atherstoneram said: It doesn't have to be in anyones interest,if the administrators can't save the club then we are liquidated. But we wouldn’t have turned down the 30 Million Binnies offer would we ! Ken Tram, Carnero and r_wilcockson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Maybe they think we won't hence the rationale behind the low in parentheses bids? Word of the day award ? Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Needlesh said: I'm saying that because as the administrators have binned the Binnie bid, and yet not announced the PB, there must be multiple bidders left. If there was one left, that would be the PB, so must still be a competition. I presume Appleby and Ashley. All conjecture, of course but seems logical to me. Time will tell. 18 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: I feel like the admins rejecting the Binnie's offer surely means they have other higher bids on the table. They gave the Binnie's a chance to increase their offer which clearly wasnt enough. But if it was the only offer it would have been enough for the creditors as a little is better than nothing. I still dont see any benefit for a new buyer to want to save a few mil so we start next season on -15 points? Firstly it will be a bad start to get the fanbase on side, secondly it would increase the chance of being a League 2 team if we got relegated this season, surely that lost revenue would end up being more than what they will actually be saving by paying less to buy us? Been plenty of mention of up to 12 weeks from a PB being named to exiting admin. If it was Ashley I would think (and hope) it may be slightly quicker with him recently owning a club, being British & surely being able to prove funds easily. So, the latest talk is 4 to 5 days til PB, that takes us to Mon, 12 weeks from then is 6th June. So that would be before players return for preseason. Could even be out of admin by the end of May if less than 12 weeks. Lets hope the Binnies offer being rejected means a PB is closer to being named. How do you know it would have been enough for the creditors, they are not going to roll over and accept any amount offered then the new owners rub their noses in it by bringing in new players and increasing the wage budget. Creditors will not be bothered whether the club survives or not. RipleyRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: But we wouldn’t have turned down the 30 Million Binnies offer would we ! If it is not enough to meet the required amount then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 45 minutes ago, rammieib said: if anyone buys us, but prefers to go so low with the bid we start on minus 15, simply won't get you support from day one, as the interests of the club are not at their heart. Imagine the scenes of opening day 22/23... "Board Out... Board Out..." ? rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Curtains said: But we wouldn’t have turned down the 30 Million Binnies offer would we ! We would if liquidation would serve the creditors better. The BBC article suggests the Binnie bid was the only one on the table. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: But we wouldn’t have turned down the 30 Million Binnies offer would we ! I really don't know what some of these people think would be liquidated, perhaps they dont actually understand what it means. There's basically nothing to liquidate come the end of the season - only the player registrations of Bielik, Bird, Knight & Sibley (liquidation value £10-15m max). No way would administrators turn down £28-30m offers without there being better offers already on the table. A lot of bedwetting going on. rynny, LeedsCityRam, hintonsboots and 8 others 3 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Carnero said: I really don't know what some of these people think would be liquidated, perhaps they dont actually understand what it means. There's basically nothing to liquidate come the end of the season - only the player registrations of Bielik, Bird, Knight & Sibley (liquidation value £10-15m max). No way would administrators turn down £28-30m offers without there being better offers already on the table. A lot of bedwetting going on. And people who keep saying something is better than nothing could well be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 By the way, if we get liquidated and have to start again fan owned, can we make an agreement not to buy Pride Park under any circumstances? Build our own ground and leave that bamford Morris saddled with a stadium no-one can use. He doesn’t deserve a penny after what he’s done. MackworthRamIsGod, Archied and jimtastic56 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Carnero said: I really don't know what some of these people think would be liquidated, perhaps they dont actually understand what it means. There's basically nothing to liquidate come the end of the season - only the player registrations of Bielik, Bird, Knight & Sibley (liquidation value £10-15m max). No way would administrators turn down £28-30m offers without there being better offers already on the table. A lot of bedwetting going on. Not bed wetting, but p.issed off to high heaven.. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 So if true that the binnies offered 28 mill for club with no stadium included , then we are told the upped offer 30 mill with the stadium included has been rejected ,,, surely that tells us that Morris is very much still holding a lot of the cards and pulling strings , why would admins care what happens to the stadium as it’s not under administration ??♂️,,,, seems clear the cost of the stadium is a very big issue to a buyer and to Morris , you know what mr Morris ,, pay the ducking tax bill , give the stadium back to the club and disappear before you completely wipe a great historic club / our club out of existence ?????? Ted McMinn Football Genius, Derby4Me, S8TY and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) You cant blame Admin for going silent..they clearly state they have been alarmed by the leaks (often factually incorrect)..if a leak would put a bid at risk then do whatever it takes. Edited March 10, 2022 by Yani P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: And people who keep saying something is better than nothing could well be surprised. Go on then, tell me what exactly you think will be liquidated and to a total value of greater than £30m. GenBr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, Archied said: So if true that the binnies offered 28 mill for club with no stadium included , then we are told the upped offer 30 mill with the stadium included has been rejected ,,, surely that tells us that Morris is very much still holding a lot of the cards and pulling strings , why would admins care what happens to the stadium as it’s not under administration ??♂️,,,, seems clear the cost of the stadium is a very big issue to a buyer and to Morris , you know what mr Morris ,, pay the ducking tax bill , give the stadium back to the club and disappear before you completely wipe a great historic club / our club out of existence ?????? The scene from national lampoon’s Christmas movie springs to mind , I want that man dragged from his bed and brought here to pride park stadium ect ect ect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Carnero said: I really don't know what some of these people think would be liquidated, perhaps they dont actually understand what it means. There's basically nothing to liquidate come the end of the season - only the player registrations of Bielik, Bird, Knight & Sibley (liquidation value £10-15m max). No way would administrators turn down £28-30m offers without there being better offers already on the table. A lot of bedwetting going on. bed wetting and liquidation. Leaks to the press. It’s pi$$ poor Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) You know what , we’ve seen pressure put on the EFL by our fans , politicians lobbied perhaps it’s time there was organised pressure on Morris from the fans and the city to sort his bloody debts out do we have email or contact details for Morris? Edited March 10, 2022 by Archied S8TY, jimtastic56 and Caerphilly Ram 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Carnero said: Go on then, tell me what exactly you think will be liquidated and to a total value of greater than £30m. Might not get anything but that doesn't mean they have to accept what is offered,they can hold out to see if they can get more,if they can;t then a new buyer is obviously not bothered about the creditors and doesn't meet the administrators financial requirements . It is the people who keep saying something is better than nothing who are doing the bed wetting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihangel Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, Carnero said: I really don't know what some of these people think would be liquidated, perhaps they dont actually understand what it means. There's basically nothing to liquidate come the end of the season - only the player registrations of Bielik, Bird, Knight & Sibley (liquidation value £10-15m max). No way would administrators turn down £28-30m offers without there being better offers already on the table. A lot of bedwetting going on. Precisely this. Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, NottmRAM said: He still has £500m. He is still making money. All the competitions on TV where it's a PO box Derby...that's Mel. Prove it. That's a PO box at the Midland Road post office, owned by a company that has no known links to Mel Morris. Tamworthram and rynny 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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