StaffsRam Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, hintonsboots said: That’s definitely a win for Gibson. You can always claim that being bald is an intentional style choice. No one wants pubes on their head do they? No way of spinning that sh**…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I'd now back a public statement saying the club will take them to court with the expectation of either defeating the claims in full or, if we lose, going into liquidation with us having no intention of paying a penny. Up the ante. Then we'll see Gibson and co. for what they really are. They'd have to take us to court knowing they'll either win and liquidate us (something he claims he doesn't want to do) or lose and get nothing. Play it out in the media. Chester40, strawhillram, DCFC1388 and 17 others 7 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, SinceIWasntSoYoung said: So we’re agreed…the EFL can stick their half-arsed mediation offer up their jacksie and we’ll see the Bamfords in court!?? FYI, Bamford has now been hyphenated. It's now Gibson-Bamford! Finch, Mucker1884, SinceIWasntSoYoung and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just too add, A good Poker Player will never show his/her hand, Maybe that's why alls quiet where Q are concerned r_wilcockson and PistoldPete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: This isn’t Boro or Wycombe’s doing. Those clubs are the fans, the history, the area. This is Gibson and Mel. As mentioned, Derby are just a pawn in a spiteful battle between two wealthy but inept owners. Initially this was the case but unfortunately their actions are beginning to have a knock effect on the unpleasant and ill informed interactions between fans. What used to be banter has, in some cases, escalated into hate. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Why are Wycombe involved then ? The good news with Wycombe is, given the masterful grasp of dates and times that Couhig has shown in his interviews and press statements, the odds of him actually turning up to any meetings on the right day are basically zero. Zag zig, Mucker1884, Tamworthram and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceIWasntSoYoung Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TomG said: FYI, Bamford has now been hyphenated. It's now Gibson-Bamford! I couldn’t bring myself and didn’t want to waste effort typing the pube-headed parasite’s name.? TomG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TomG said: FYI, Bamford has now been hyphenated. It's now Gibson-Bamford! Let's not make a mistake with this one. Bamford is half-friendly banter whereas Gibson is the worst swear word. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 One of the most outrageous bits (and there are many)is how they just blindly assume that the claims are valid. No discussion on how the actual cases themselves should be decided. The EFL want to bypass consideration of the validity of the claims and force us into settling. Surely the claims themselves should be decided first. Then if no success there is no argument. Its absolutely absurd to force acknowledgement that a undecided claim should be treated as an actual debt. This statement shows their real colours. Even Nixon appears totally bewildered. They request the attendance now of the "highest bidder(s)". This admits that a preferred bidder is not possible with the claims hanging over us which they previously said was not the case. What authority do they have to summon a potential bidder? did they have a lot to drink during the meeting? DCFC1388, Indy, Ramarena and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Just too add, A good Poker Player will never show his/her hand, Maybe that's why alls quiet where Q are concerned We're not playing poker; this is more like Russian Roulette. CBRammette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said: I am very comfortable that the balance of probabilities given the fantasy football claim falls firmly in our favour rather than beyond reasonable doubt which is the threshold in the criminal courts. Balance of probabilities can be as narrow as 51-49 percent. Beyond reasonable doubt as high as 95%+. I was very successful on beyond reasoable doubt so the balance of probabilities sits nicely with me for DCFC in this case. Fingers crossed. Interesting. I read it the other way round. I had it my head that Middlesbrough would have to satisfy the court that they missed out on promotion due to our over spending. It would be harder for them to satisfy the court if the measure was “beyond all reasonable doubt” rather than “balance of probability”. I can’t imagine any person of sound mind would be convinced that, if they had finished 6th instead of us, they would, beyond all reasonable doubt, have reached the play off final let alone got promoted. It is of course irrelevant what we think. This can only be a civil case. Edited February 3, 2022 by Tamworthram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winktheram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: How? It's a moot point, as we can't go off an settle the other debts and then ignore other EFL member clubs 'claims' as none of the bidders will do this. But strictly to the law of the land, if a backer was prepared to do this we could. The EFL then just expel us for the misdemeanor of following the law of the land only and not considering EFL member clubs claims. The EFL can do this as they act for the 72 clubs and that's what the club rules say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Before I sign off the night and listen to the missus woes from work, just going to say this, don’t be angry at the EFL’s statement tonight, it’s a positive one for us and it clearly states their position which allows us to move forward with a high court judgment. Whilst we might disagree on the side they fell into, it wasn’t totally unexpected and we’ve been desperate for them to come down off the fence for a while now, this is better than to continue stalling. Quantuma have what they need now, the EFL’s position and proof of funds to see us through the next couple of months, time for court. SinceIWasntSoYoung, Gritstone Ram, winktheram and 32 others 13 2 18 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, SillyBilly said: I'd now back a public statement saying the club will take them to court with the expectation of either defeating the claims in full or, if we lose, going into liquidation with us having no intention of paying a penny. Up the ante. Then we'll see Gibson and co. for what they really are. They'd have to take us to court knowing they'll either win and liquidate us (something he claims he doesn't want to do) or lose and get nothing. Play it out in the media. I am not convinced the Gibbon is worried about the money…more concerned with continuing the chaos as long as possible is what he is after… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, CBRammette said: They request the attendance now of the "highest bidder(s)". This admits that a preferred bidder is not possible with the claims hanging over us which they previously said was not the case. What authority do they have to summon a potential bidder? What authority do they have to summon Morris, HMRC, MSD either? DCFC1388, Foxy Ram, Indyram and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, duncanjwitham said: What authority do they have to summon Morris, HMRC, MSD either? None it’s just posturing Indy, r_wilcockson and CheshRam 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramos Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, David said: Before I sign off the night and listen to the missus woes from work, just going to say this, don’t be angry at the EFL’s statement tonight, it’s a positive one for us and it clearly states their position which allows us to move forward with a high court judgment. Whilst we might disagree on the side they fell into, it wasn’t totally unexpected and we’ve been desperate for them to come down off the fence for a while now, this is better than to continue stalling. Quantuma have what they need now, the EFL’s position and proof of funds to see us through the next couple of months, time for court. Crazy how they finally came down of their fence almost as there was just enough time for one last draught to come through as the transfer window slams shut. Their strategy has been so transparent from the start. Donnyram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, IslandExile said: We're not playing poker; this is more like Russian Roulette. I don't see a gun pointed at our head, Q imo have done everything(bar updates to fans)that they could have done without threatening legal action, When dealing with a shambolic football organisation like the EFL you have to tread a little carefully, No good being the loudest in the room if the headmaster has the cane. Now things seem to have changed with the latest EFL statement..."TAKE IT TO COURT" this I would hope is the only option now, Let the Court decide if Boro/WW are creditors. I know believe Q have the winning hand ? IslandExile and FlyBritishMidland 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winktheram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, David said: Before I sign off the night and listen to the missus woes from work, just going to say this, don’t be angry at the EFL’s statement tonight, it’s a positive one for us and it clearly states their position which allows us to move forward with a high court judgment. Whilst we might disagree on the side they fell into, it wasn’t totally unexpected and we’ve been desperate for them to come down off the fence for a while now, this is better than to continue stalling. Quantuma have what they need now, the EFL’s position and proof of funds to see us through the next couple of months, time for court. Absolutely David. Things are moving. Q show your hand. Court, Arbitration or Mediation. As Delia would say 'let's be be aving you!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: What authority do they have to summon Morris, HMRC, MSD either? Yes agree also - why would MSD attend? Do they expect them to give up some of their secured debt ???? Tamworthram, r_wilcockson and strawhillram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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