hintonsboots Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: Theres also no reason to think that the efl would (or even could?) change their insolvency policy. We’re only asking them to update it in line with real UK law. The EFL are an unregulated quango run by an unprofessional board. In their world the earth is still flat and leaches are used to treat septicaemia. ducking get a grip of it Rick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 What another mess of an EFL statement what does it say - it says the administrators can go to arbitration or go to high court - Go to high court please and quickly EfL are saying they will kick us out of the league if don’t comply with paying the parasites by means of a legal administration procedure kick us out then The EFL are at last trying to organise a meeting between stakeholders (some who are not in administration?) I assume that’s because the politicians are asking why aren’t the EFL doing anything to resolve anything. Middlesbrough apparently started a claim last January whilst no date given for Wycombe (inconsistent) it’s taken the EFL until the 3rd of February 2022 to ask for a meeting to take place - absolutely abysmal leadership IslandExile, Foxy Ram, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army and 8 others 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, alexxxxx said: You have to remember, the charge was that the amortisation was incorrect/misrepresented.. Not that we were in breach of ffp - that came much later when we were in admin. The facts didn’t seem To mean much to efl or Gibson alexxxxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 If they don't budge and we go under I will never, ever forgive Middlesbrough or Wycombe until my dying days. Imagine destroying a fellow club like this. Indy, Bald Eagle's Barmy Army, Ramarena and 11 others 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexxxxx Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: We’re only asking them to update it in line with real UK law. The EFL are an unregulated quango run by an unprofessional board. In their world the earth is still flat and leaches are used to treat septicaemia. ducking get a grip of it Rick. Yeah but why would they if they don't have to? It's completely contrary to their mandate of representing the other clubs. The EFL are not fair or independent... I don't think that should come as a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, LittleEatonRam said: If they don't budge and we go under I will never, ever forgive Middlesbrough or Wycombe until my dying days. Imagine destroying a fellow club like this. Mel destroyed us. They just put the nails in the coffin. Derby4Me, Maharan, Jortat and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, LittleEatonRam said: If they don't budge and we go under I will never, ever forgive Middlesbrough or Wycombe until my dying days. Imagine destroying a fellow club like this. To be fair it’s Gibson and the Wycombe stooge that we will need to get even with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) Gibbo to chair the arbitration hearing ? Edited February 3, 2022 by hintonsboots alexxxxx, Jortat and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Why would a club need to be in admin to be sued by a fellow league member ? The EFL have opened the floodgates and some massive claims could arise, which would be enough to bankrupt certain clubs. They don't, but if a clubs in admin they can't defend themselves, so every club might as well sue them for any reason they can think of. If the admin club doesn't pay out, they go extinct. The suing club has nothing to lose. Chris_Martin, r_wilcockson, Indy and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: Mel destroyed us. They just put the nails in the coffin. Oh without doubt. It's just that MFC and WW's claims are based on pure fantasy football. If the EFL wants to set this precedent then it is digging its own grave. r_wilcockson, TomG and Andicis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomG Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Gibbo arrives to Chair the EFL arbitration hearing. The way things are going, it's not beyond the realms of possibility! hintonsboots 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawhillram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, DCFC Kicks said: They don't, but if a clubs in admin they can't defend themselves, so every club might as well sue them for any reason they can think of. If the admin club doesn't pay out, they go extinct. The suing club has nothing to lose. Mel should have taken the threat / claim from Gibson to court before he put us in admin. But he did a runner DCFC Kicks, Indy, Maharan and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andicis said: Mel destroyed us. They just put the nails in the coffin. He did. But the efl could have stopped this long before it got serious. I hold them all to the same account. Spineless weasels. Insert many swear words between those words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said: They don't, but if a clubs in admin they can't defend themselves, so every club might as well sue them for any reason they can think of. If the admin club doesn't pay out, they go extinct. The suing club has nothing to lose. What happens when there's no clubs left..... DCFC Kicks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WharfedaleRam Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 We need a court injunction to prevent the EFL from carrying out pre-emptive action to kick us out of the league. Then we take the parasites' cases to court and get them shown up for what they are. A PB is immediately aware what the club will cost, debts can be paid, the club comes out of administration and the restrictions are relaxed. In the meantime, the EFL are disbanded and Boro miss out on promotion (again) thus putting them into a significant risk of failing FFP and starting next season on - points. Simples! Jortat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 53 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: Said on Friday I didn’t think the EFL were necessarily the bad guys, just a unorganised and incompetent organisation being taken advantage of. Now they have seemingly drawn their line in the sand I’ll happily say they are a corrupt as any organisation and can frankly do one because how they are acting is dreadful and needs calling out. This will never be forgotten. Ok, well its taken you a while... on Sunday there were 32k saying what they thought of the EFL..now it's 32,001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Hope and expect the Admins to issue a statement saying they are starting the legal process and have applied to the court has they said they have the right to be given a preferential slot. The EFL I think are counting on them not doing this despite their words IslandExile, Indy and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, StrawHillRam said: Mel should have taken the threat / claim from Gibson to court before he put us in admin. But he did a runner didn't want to pay for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Thing is all efforts should now be about saving Derby County. Sorting out financial matters between clubs should be saved uk the club is preserved. That the EFL, Boro and Wycombe are acting like this is absolutely disgusting and shameful, there isn’t any other words to describe it. ilkleyram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley ram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I think this moves things on fairly significantly. Look at it from SGs position. If we go to court he could: A) win a big payout, which is highly unlikely and which may liquidate us. Consequently he gets £0 and potentially gets HMRC pursuing MFC for our unpaid debt. B) win a small payout for lost revenue of a P/O semifinal. More likely but no way guaranteed C) the case gets thrown out and he pays costs and looks a complete tool. From his POV arbitration is the best option as it carries least jeopardy. Admins and bidders know this and consequently know he comes to arbitration with a weakened position. Game theory would indicate that the preferred bidders should collude to bring down the sum offered to SG to a negligible amount as this will be better than court for him. Chances are they wouldn’t collude but they do have coinciding interests ….. Ian Buxton's Bat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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